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Fair enough. I agree with you mostly. As a technical matter, I recall the Tea Party being more astroturf. It was organized by Glenn Beck IIRC. That doesn't really affect your overall point though, which is well-taken.
Something like a proto-Tea Party had been around earlier, since at least 2002 (my first experience with them) although I think they went back further than that. They’d been active in libertarian Republican circles until they broke through to the mainstream.

I understand the charges of astroturfing via Beck & others, but that was the Republican mainstream co-opting the previously niche movement. But you’re correct that is what pushed it into the mainstream from the sidelines.
 
Tea Party was when I noticed the first of the fringe intelligent #DeepChathamites beginning to careen off into the bizarro universe.

Something also makes the name Grover Norquist stick out from those ugly birthings too.
 
HeelTalk. It spun off when ZZL first split. It's mostly been a decent place to go but literally everyone is a couple of decades younger than me. I still drop by but it has gotten pretty slow and pretty predictable.
I just can't participate on a board where Sandi is accepted and lauded. It's totally cool that those folks apparently like and understand him, but I just don't. He strikes me as completely mean spirited in a very personal and dangerous way.
 
I haven't been by IC lately either... today I went there (for some unknown reason) and got hit with some sort of Ad Blocker thingy. Couldn't get past the paywall



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HeelTalk. It spun off when ZZL first split. It's mostly been a decent place to go but literally everyone is a couple of decades younger than me. I still drop by but it has gotten pretty slow and pretty predictable.
I’ve seen that place referenced periodically and just looked it up for the first time. When I click on the site link it gives me a “this account has been suspended” error message lol. Is the entire site defunct or what?
 
I’ve seen that place referenced periodically and just looked it up for the first time. When I click on the site link it gives me a “this account has been suspended” error message lol. Is the entire site defunct or what?
Just happened this afternoon. Don't know what happened.
 
I just can't participate on a board where Sandi is accepted and lauded. It's totally cool that those folks apparently like and understand him, but I just don't. He strikes me as completely mean spirited in a very personal and dangerous way.
He's not everyone's cup of tea. I do think a commonality among HT regulars is we don't take him seriously. Deep down he's a big teddy bear. A big fat coked out teddy bear.
 
I haven't been by IC lately either... today I went there (for some unknown reason) and got hit with some sort of Ad Blocker thingy. Couldn't get past the paywall



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Normally I get that if I am logged out. I hit escape and it goes away, then I log in.

Interesting is that I get the add blocker message from several sites. I try escape and it goes away, but some it will not. I don't actually have an add blocker, so there is nothing to turn off. And I don't understand how ads work anyway, I've never and will never buy anything because I got a stupid popup that blocked the article I was trying to read.
 
He's not everyone's cup of tea. I do think a commonality among HT regulars is we don't take him seriously. Deep down he's a big teddy bear. A big fat coked out teddy bear.
If he would share his coke, it would be easier to not take him seriously. 😁

Seriously, I don't really have any issue with him. I just know not to respond.
 
Normally I get that if I am logged out. I hit escape and it goes away, then I log in.

Interesting is that I get the add blocker message from several sites. I try escape and it goes away, but some it will not. I don't actually have an add blocker, so there is nothing to turn off. And I don't understand how ads work anyway, I've never and will never buy anything because I got a stupid popup that blocked the article I was trying to read.
Sorry. I can't read your reply. Ad block and paywall keep popping up.
 
It’s a profoundly unthinking position, apparently hidden from the bosider by their own arrogance.
How is expanding the perspective an unthinking position?

How is posing the question why do we have to accept the least bad option, as opposed to a good option, arrogant?

I suspect so called Bo-spiders get rebuked here because the position threatens posters’ political identities.
 
How is expanding the perspective an unthinking position?

How is posing the question why do we have to accept the least bad option, as opposed to a good option, arrogant?

I suspect so called Bo-spiders get rebuked here because the position threatens posters’ political identities.
More because they are sulky little assholes afraid to stand for anything so they stand for everything.
 
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