The Charlie Kirk Thread

There's a professor from NYU, I believe (can't remember his name), that CNN sometimes has on. Expertise is technology and social media.

He says that, basically, around 10 companies run the stock market (implying how the bottom will inevitably fall out although he doesn't say that). He says that they are all invested in social media. Because they know how algorithms affect people.

He is very worried.
 
MendotoManteo said:
Don't know where I'm going to go with this post. Mostly just ranting.

The day it happened, my retired mom texts me about how mad she is. With Iryna being killed (she lives near Charlotte) and Charlie Kirk being killed. She knows my politics and was asking why the left does so much of this. She said, "you probably haven't even heard of Iryna because she was white." In fact, I've heard very much about Iryna, precisely because she's white. I cautioned her. One, the Iryna thing wasn't even political or racial. Just a schizophrenic who did a bad thing in a bad moment. (Sidenote: my dad always complains how violent Charlotte is and that people ought to move to Greensboro. In fact, Greensboro statistically worse.) And I said, we don't know who killed Charlie Kirk yet. Let's be patient.

When we learned that it was a Mauser, I knew it couldn't possibly be a leftist. Unless a false flag, and that would require some sort of insider government cooperation, which is not going to happen for any leftist in this country. I've been in certain circles, and I know for a fact no leftist would ever use a Mauser. I don't think I have to explain that.

Anyhow, I tried to calm my mom down by bringing up all the instances of right-wing violence recently. She seemed calmed but now she's wanting me to watch Charlie Kirk (didn't even know she knew of him until three or four days ago) videos about coming to God.

I asked if she's terminally online, like the killer, but she says no. I disagree but whatever.

And she will not let it go about the Trump attempts, despite me explaining to her over and over that the Butler one was just a "lost boy," from a MAGA family (just like this guy), who also had plans about Biden. It's just that Trump was more convenient. And the guy skulking around in the bushes at Mar-a-Lago, don't even get me started on that.

She has a heart condition and had to retire early. After Covid, when she saw how ugly people can be about masks and what-not, combined with Jan. 6th, I thought my parents were coming around. They seemed to be getting it.

I don't know what happened, but their brains have gone to mush. She's texting me today about Biden and Kamala (hated her because of her laugh, of course) and their open borders.

I mean, what in the hell?

Social media and the Internet have been a complete brain rot on this country. The algorithms get that lizard brain receptor of rage.

If my own mother can't trust what I say (and I've predicted this almost perfectly since 2016), what hope do we have?
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Ask mom if she’s a groyper.
 
“Noticed bulge, owo, what’s this?” Is a reference to his trans partner, who is also a furry.

owo is a playful, stylized emoticon commonly used in furry online communities to express curiosity, surprise, or excitement. It’s a variation of OwO which mimics a cute, wide-eyed facial expression. The o represents big, round eyes and the w represents a small, pursed mouth, conveying a sense of innocence or mischief in furry culture.
 
Ramrouser said:
“Noticed bulge, owo, what’s this?” Is a reference to his trans partner, who is also a furry.

owo is a playful, stylized emoticon commonly used in furry online communities to express curiosity, surprise, or excitement. It’s a variation of OwO which mimics a cute, wide-eyed facial expression. The o represents big, round eyes and the w represents a small, pursed mouth, conveying a sense of innocence or mischief in furry culture.
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You know this how? You know they were "partners" how?

You think this is important information, why exactly? So now we are judging people not by the content of their characters but the appearance of their roommates?
 
superrific said:
I went to college with a lot of kids who looked like that. We called them goths.

If people are looking at that kid and thinking trans, what do they think of all the glam rockers in the 70s and 80s?
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Apparently this info is coming from a source inside the police department. I don’t want it to be true but it’s a possibility.
 
Ramrouser either has gender dysmorphia himself or one of his children does. There's no other explanation besides projection for his bizarre fixation on transgender folks. It wasn't enough that he got made to look like an unimaginable moron for his initial "the shooter will be a mentally-ill transgendered leftist" to have been proven laughably wrong, now he's latched onto the possible *roommate* of the shooter having an alternative lifestyle as being the reason why Tyler Robinson killed Charlie Kirk. Even by your pathetically low standards, ramrouser, that's some baaaad, bad stuff, my dude.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
To be honest, the longer she keeps posting and saying stuff like this it's going to look very much like she's just already planning on taking over her husband's grift and becoming the next Charlie Kirk, not, as she says, to promote Jesus and Christianity, but to keep stirring up division and bringing in that sweet, sweet cash that has no doubt given her a very nice lifestyle. She may well have loved and cared for her husband, but based on her initial actions and social media posts it certainly looks as if she's wasting no time in taking over his enterprises and advertising herself as his heir apparent.
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Her crying on the tarmac was 100% genuine and hard to watch.

At this point I am going to operate under the assumption that her videos are her way of coping which is definitely pure 21st century.

That in no way justifies her use of the “they” implying that her husband’s death was caused by more than one deranged person. I get the desire to attach a larger meaning to the death of a loved one but provoking us against them is irresponsible.
 
I have no idea if any of this about a transgender roommate or lover or whatever is true, but if it is I have no doubt that the right will use it to the max to elevate their war on transgenders (and the LGBTQ community generally) to a whole new level. Charlie Kirk will become the martyr who died at the hands of evil and godless transgenders (read: all transgenders everywhere), and I doubt that any pushback or explanations from liberals will slow that narrative. And for that reason I certainly hope the story isn't true. It seems clear that right-wing media and many right-wing pols are just itching to go after liberals more than they already have, and this would provide them with all the narrative they need.
 
FWIW:
"On top of that, the emergence of what came to be called the “alt-right” was mirrored within the fandom by the rise of so-called “alt-furries”, importing far-right political ideas. A subgroup called the Furry Raiders, linked to neo-Nazi organisations like the Proud Boys, adopted a swastika armband modified with a pawprint as their logo and began infiltrating conventions and starting their own. In 2017, two years after the gas attack, Midwest FurFest finally banned them after learning of a plan to bring alt-right troll Milo Yiannopoulos to the convention as a stunt. But the group is still going today."

www.theguardian.com

‘Why are people always pointing the finger at furries?’: inside the wild world of the furry fandom

A joyful and inclusive subculture where people express their true selves or an example of unchecked wokery? The furry fandom has always been a polarising lightning rod for extreme opinions
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

"For Nazi furries, the “outcast” component is crucial. As Deo told me, a lot of furries find their way into these hate groups when they’re young and still figuring themselves out. Many are closeted and hold inward resentment to their queerness. Nazi furries use “degeneracy”—a word deployed in the Third Reich to describe a stain on society that needed to be purged to secure a white homeland—to draw a dividing line between themselves and other furries. These young, could-be-Nazi furries see openly queer people who share their same weird interest in cartoon animals. Because they have not accepted their own identity and are psychologically pliable, older Nazi furries can steer their inward resentment outward. They can take a stance: “Being furry is fine, sure, but we shouldn’t be degenerates.” The process that follows is a cultlike descent into brotherhood, blood and soil, and (what’s most feared) possibly acts of violence."
slate.com

Whatever Happened to the “Nazi Furries” of the Trump Era? A Tasmanian Devil Came for Them.

How a fandom helped its alt-right pull back.
slate.com slate.com

Maybe this Robinson kid just happens to be a gun nut, raised by a sheriff in a Trump loving family, who has consistently used Groyper sayings, memes, and costumes, AND is also a flaming liberal trans furry. Or, maybe the furries are also a part of the far right fever swamp. Or, the "weird" furry stuff is irrelevant.
 
superrific said:
I don't care if it's true. The roommate apparently cooperated with the police, which is the only thing that matters.

Judging people by their roommates is low even by GOP standards.
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I understand that but they are going to run with it and frankly it gives them reason now to believe he did do it for the transgender community. It’s not a good look
Mulberry Heel said:
I have no idea if any of this about a transgender roommate or lover or whatever is true, but if it is I have no doubt that the right will use it to the max to elevate their war on transgenders (and the LGBTQ community generally) to a whole new level. Charlie Kirk will become the martyr who died at the hands of evil and godless transgenders (read: all transgenders everywhere), and I doubt that any pushback or explanations from liberals will slow that narrative. And for that reason I certainly hope the story isn't true. It seems clear that right-wing media and many right-wing pols are just itching to go after liberals more than they already have, and this would provide them with all the narrative they need.
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thats my fear.
 




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Cochran may or may not be right, I guess we’ll see. If this leak holds up, I fell pretty sick about it for innocent transgender people everywhere who will be further targeted for hatred and worse as a result — even if the shooter is just a roommate and not a lover or whatever.

If this leak proves to be another premature guess that is disproven, then we’ll see if the media is clear about a consistent transphobic narrative being fed to the public in this case or just lets it go as a reporting oopsie.
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
Her crying on the tarmac was 100% genuine and hard to watch.

At this point I am going to operate under the assumption that her videos are her way of coping which is definitely pure 21st century.

That in no way justifies her use of the “they” implying that her husband’s death was caused by more than one deranged person. I get the desire to attach a larger meaning to the death of a loved one but provoking us against them is irresponsible.
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Maybe. I also think it's very possible to be genuinely grieving and still be planning ahead for your next business move, which in this case would be take over his enterprises and replace him and become the next Charlie Kirk. I've learned over many years that it's more than justified to have a large dose of cynicism and skepticism when it comes to prominent right-wingers, and to celebrity couples generally whatever their political leanings.
 
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