The Charlie Kirk Thread

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duluoz said:
I’m curious to check it out but I’m not dying to hear Ezra walk back and equivocate over his overly-generous comments at the time. If that was the fluffy crap he was going to say, better to say nothing.

He lost major major cred with me over that.
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I didn't find his explanation particularly satisfying, but I did find it genuine, for what it's worth. What I think he was trying to say is some combination of "Charlie Kirk was going on college campuses and talking with people who disagreed with him, and I think Democrats needed (and need) to take more opportunities to go talk with people who disagree with them" and "Charlie Kirk was obviously really successful at persuading young people to his side, and I wish Democrats could be more successful at doing that." I still didn't think, in his conversation with Coates, he fully acknowledged the point that Coates was making which was "but Charlie Kirk wasn't trying to have genuine conversations with people he disagreed with, he was trying to provoke and rage-bait people to get reactions that he could package on social media to stoke a politics of hate." Klein kept saying some version of "but it worked, didn't it?" but I really just don't think that's the point. You can acknowledge that Charlie Kirk's brand of politics was effective from an electoral perspective while still pointing out that it was toxic and ultimately damaging to American political discourse.
 
Icky Mettle said:
I figured it had to be the Covid vaccine.
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I've been avoiding the news, I have enough problems of my own right now, so this is the first I'm hearing of this.

So some are saying that the murder didn't shoot him, rather his mic blew up? So the hit was from someone else??
 
UNCatTech said:
I've been avoiding the news, I have enough problems of my own right now, so this is the first I'm hearing of this.

So some are saying that the murder didn't shoot him, rather his mic blew up? So the hit was from someone else??
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It seems like they are somehow implicating Jack Posobiac as the guy signaling to shooter/detonator to blow up the mic? Am I reading that correctly?

If so, I say run with it. This is a conspiracy theory I can get behind.
 
rodoheel said:
I didn't find his explanation particularly satisfying, but I did find it genuine, for what it's worth. What I think he was trying to say is some combination of "Charlie Kirk was going on college campuses and talking with people who disagreed with him, and I think Democrats needed (and need) to take more opportunities to go talk with people who disagree with them" and "Charlie Kirk was obviously really successful at persuading young people to his side, and I wish Democrats could be more successful at doing that." I still didn't think, in his conversation with Coates, he fully acknowledged the point that Coates was making which was "but Charlie Kirk wasn't trying to have genuine conversations with people he disagreed with, he was trying to provoke and rage-bait people to get reactions that he could package on social media to stoke a politics of hate." Klein kept saying some version of "but it worked, didn't it?" but I really just don't think that's the point. You can acknowledge that Charlie Kirk's brand of politics was effective from an electoral perspective while still pointing out that it was toxic and ultimately damaging to American political discourse.
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I thought Coates was effective in pointing that out.
 
I was just texting with my BIL. It started out about the game and somewhere took a turn.
It went a little into religion where he seems to have this irrational fear that Islam is going to take over the country.
Then out of the blue he started talking about how great charlie kirk was. I stopped responding. After 5 or 6 text I responded that I'm not discussing this with him, we will just accept that we disagree and move on. I did mention that he sounded just like a fox news host.
 
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