The Charlie Kirk Thread

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CHAMTRAIN said:
Last night I asked my 12 year old son if he was familiar with Kirk, he knew who he was. This is a pre-teen who's life revolves around sports and video games, he (and his friends) had already been exposed to Kirk's poisonous rhetoric.

I won't condone violence but I also won't pretend I'm not happy that my son and his friends won't be exposed to this mans warped ideology.
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Kirk had been the most successful, but trust that there are endless others who will bring the same message to their screens.
 
Ramrouser said:
For many young folks on the Right, 9/10 will be their 9/11.

I think many of you here (understandably since Kirk wasn't in your social media feed) grossly underestimate the power, influence and reach of Charlie Kirk. He mobilized the youth on college campuses and on social media and I would argue, played a huge role in Trump winning the under 30 vote (particularly among young men). Kirk wasn't a right wing provocateur; instead, he was famous for showing up on campuses with a smile and politely engaging with liberals in a friendly manner. Kirk also played a role in the return of young men to church which has been quantified. There was/is no one equivalent on the Left.

Kirk will be hard/impossible to replace.
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I don’t know about that but he will be there George Floyd or Malcom X…
 
HandsonFire said:
I have no idea who the shooter is but are you really surprised if this turns out to be someone with left wing ideology? What are the other options? Someone who Kirk wronged on an individual basis? Right wing conspiracy led by Trump?

I’m as left as they come, but are we surprised by any of this. The right keeps pushing things closer and closer to the kingship of Donald Trump all while throwing their hands up saying they are doing nothing , while blaming the left for what they are doing. It’s ludicrous.
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I would be absolutely shocked if it wasn't someone with a left wing ideology and I think most Democrats, if they're being honest, would also be shocked.
HandsonFire said:
Note I’m not condoning violence. But I’m horrified and curious at the same time. If we are indeed sliding down the slippery slope towards something like Nazi Germany when is the time for physicall opposition?
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The problem is that too many people take seriously the assertion that we are on a slippery slope toward something like Nazi Germany and feel like they need to take action.
 
Ramrouser said:
The shooter may or may not have been a “novice” but it was a planned, organized hit. He likely had assistance given his escape.
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I think the simpler explanation is that it was on a college campus with probably 30,000 people at that time and university police rarely deal with anything more serious than felony or sexual assault and the parties are often known to each other. Lots of opportunities to blend in and get off campus.
 
ZenMode said:
I would be absolutely shocked if it wasn't someone with a left wing ideology and I think most Democrats, if they're being honest, would also be shocked.

The problem is that too many people take seriously the assertion that we are on a slippery slope toward something like Nazi Germany and feel like they need to take action.
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Actually, the problem is idiots like you who think we are not on such a slippery slope.
 
PTOHeel said:
What does transgender and antifascist ideology engraving on a bullet look like? Seems like something out of a movie. Very strange.
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My guess it’s on the casing. Ammunition for long rifles is 2-3” long and has the top which is the bullet but there is a round brass base. Plenty of room to engrave a world or 2 though I have no idea what the words would be that would convey those sentiments.
 
Please remember not to directly quote/respond to the board chuds so that the rest of us who Super Ignored them can see your post. I'm interested in reading your posts, but not anything from ram, calla, hy, and other idiots.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.
 
PTOHeel said:
What does transgender and antifascist ideology engraving on a bullet look like? Seems like something out of a movie. Very strange.
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I have an open mind when it comes to this report, but if the engravings on that bullet are not shown to the public, and the Kash Patel FBI is the source, then I will have grave doubts.

It wasn't that long ago that a benign autism tattoo was being claimed to be a violent Venezuelan gang tattoo.
 
duluoz said:
No. He got canned for the absolutely absurd suggestion that it could’ve been a celebratory shot by a supporter that inadvertently hit Kirk. The rest of what he said just added more justification for the firing. But the initial comment is an embarrassment. He should be fired for that, and was.

Yes there are plenty of equally idiotic fox news personalities who have said things even more ludicrous than this. They should also be fired. The fact that this guy was fired while those others aren’t is meant demonstrate at least some semblance of journalistic integrity.
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My bad, I didn’t fully understand who or what the Dowd guy said. Yeah, I get it now.
 
PTOHeel said:
What does transgender and antifascist ideology engraving on a bullet look like? Seems like something out of a movie. Very strange.
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Yeah. This and the fact they won't release 'good video' of the suspect seem...very off.

I am absolutely anti-conspiracist - my favorite podcast is QAA - but this week we have seen the release of the gross AF Epstein birthday book, Israel bombing Qatar, Russian drones falling on Poland and crappy economic news. If there was ever a time for an incident to take some heat off...
 
bassydude77 said:
Right, what is "trans and anti-fascist ideology?" Diversity, inclusion and equity?
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In their minds, trans ideology would be something like = All people are equal
and anti-fascist ideology would be = Justice For All

It doesn't matter what the motive was, because half the country already has their mind made up, and will believe what the want to be true regardless.
 
HandsonFire said:
My guess it’s on the casing. Ammunition for long rifles is 2-3” long and has the top which is the bullet but there is a round brass base. Plenty of room to engrave a world or 2 though I have no idea what the words would be that would convey those sentiments.
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For the antifascist slogan, Woody Guthrie’s famous sticker for his guitar would make sense (This machine kills fascists). But I don’t know how you’d fit it on a bullet casing.
 
HandsonFire said:
My guess it’s on the casing. Ammunition for long rifles is 2-3” long and has the top which is the bullet but there is a round brass base. Plenty of room to engrave a world or 2 though I have no idea what the words would be that would convey those sentiments.
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Maybe one had a swastika that was crossed out with a 🚫, and the other had a picture of a dude wearing a🥇 in a girls’ locker room.
 
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