The Charlie Kirk Thread

[ZenMode]

And you think Jesus would agree with that?

I could not care less what some rando Jewish preacher thinks.

 

[Tar1978Heel]

Then you don’t believe in the Constitution or America.

So basically Charlie Kirk was shot for believing in the Constitution…

A non citizen can say what they want but not a US citizen he is considered a Nazi and is killed for the world to see…


These freedoms have limitations; for example, they don't protect speech that incites violence or causes a clear and present danger, or speech that defames someone.

 

[HeelInTheOzarks]

Matt Dowd was fired for these comments.

Another very concerning train of thought from a mainstream liberal with a big microphone.

Mainstream liberal Matthew Dowd? Dude, are you even trying?

 

[ZenMode]

Mainstream liberal Matthew Dowd? Dude, are you even trying?

He has been a Dem, again, for several years.

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

No, it's exactly what he said, which is why he was fired.

No it isn't.

He was fired because 1) it was insensitive and unwise to say it at this time and 2) enough idiots like you will misinterpret it by attributing a motivation that doesn't exist to his words.

 

[Zoo_View]

Then you don’t believe in the Constitution or America.

That’s been apparent for a long time.

 

[mpaer]

So basically Charlie Kirk was shot for believing in the Constitution…

A non citizen can say what they want but not a US citizen he is considered a Nazi and is killed for the world to see…


These freedoms have limitations; for example, they don't protect speech that incites violence or causes a clear and present danger, or speech that defames someone.

I assume he was killed because some nut job did not like him ?
Maybe we will find out a different story one day ?

 

[theel4life]

I could not care less what some rando Jewish preacher thinks.

 

[ZenMode]

No it isn't.

He was fired because 1) it was insensitive and unwise to say it at this time and 2) enough idiots like you will misinterpret it by attributing a motivation that doesn't exist to his words.

Yes, victim blaming is a bad idea.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

I assume he was killed because some nut job did not like him ?
Maybe we will find out a different story one day ?

You're right but if you're going to describe it that way, you could say the same thing about MLK or RFK or Gandhi.

 

[Tar1978Heel]

I think non-citizens are here because we allow them to be, not because they have an inherent right to be here and we, as a country, have the absolute authority to decide to remove a non-citizen.

End of the day immigration should be easy…You come in the legal way and apply for citizenship or you come in illegally and get deported…

Now keep in mind it’s always other circumstances that happen like a baseball players from Cuba or others trying to escape governments that they don’t agree with…You still do it the right way…It’s so simple but yet we make it so hard…

 

[Bigs23]

So basically Charlie Kirk was shot for believing in the Constitution…

A non citizen can say what they want but not a US citizen he is considered a Nazi and is killed for the world to see…


These freedoms have limitations; for example, they don't protect speech that incites violence or causes a clear and present danger, or speech that defames someone.

Some crazy person killed Kirk. I’m not seeing the connection. Murder is not legal.

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

So basically Charlie Kirk was shot for believing in the Constitution…

A non citizen can say what they want but not a US citizen he is considered a Nazi and is killed for the world to see…


These freedoms have limitations; for example, they don't protect speech that incites violence or causes a clear and present danger, or speech that defames someone.

Nobody is defending the killing of Kirk.

This isn't a freedom of speech issue - at least not in the constitutional sense. Freedom of speech protects you from the government taking actions against you or taking steps to silence your speech. The government did not kill Kirk.

This is about Kirk's right to life, nobody here is questioning that, and the government will take all steps to make sure the party involved is held accountable.

 

[mpaer]

You're right but if you're going to describe it that way, you could say the same thing about MLK or RFK or Gandhi.

According to trump Ted Cruz's dad helped kill RFK-or was that JFK?

 

[4thgenheel]

There's a reason that people take small quotes from larger, complete thoughts as the author of your post did. That reason is to misrepresent the intent of the person being partial quoted.

I'm not going to spend time going through every cherry picked quote, but here's a few thoughts:

MLK was not a good person. Did he single handedly lead the civil rights revolution? Yes, but he was not a good person.

He didn't say all black women don't have processing power..or whatever he said. He was talking about 4 specific females, at least two of which acknowledged they got where they did due to affirmative action. He's not responsible for the reality of what AA became, which is often a lowering of standards.

The black pilot comment was related to DEI. Again, it's not his fault that DEI exists in the form it does.

I think there is evidence that LGBTQ is a social contagion. I think it has become trendy and "in" to have 8 different genders.

As far as religious stuff goes, that is far from unique to Charlie and is widely accepted in the evangelical world. My in-laws are the nicest people and he is clearly in charge of the house, she is definitely submissive and it is 100% due to their Methodist beliefs.

Religious extremism is it's own type of crazy.

I don't agree with it, but there's nothing wrong with adults who choose to live their life as they do.

Edit: Charlie said some not great things, but there is a clear intent to remove all context and cherry pick parts of entire thought to misrepresent what he was saying.

several of us on this board are members of the lgbtq community. people's sexuality isn't a fucking "social contagion" you fucking bigot.

There's a reason that people take small quotes from larger, complete thoughts as the author of your post did. That reason is to misrepresent the intent of the person being partial quoted.

I'm not going to spend time going through every cherry picked quote, but here's a few thoughts:

MLK was not a good person. Did he single handedly lead the civil rights revolution? Yes, but he was not a good person.

He didn't say all black women don't have processing power..or whatever he said. He was talking about 4 specific females, at least two of which acknowledged they got where they did due to affirmative action. He's not responsible for the reality of what AA became, which is often a lowering of standards.

The black pilot comment was related to DEI. Again, it's not his fault that DEI exists in the form it does.

I think there is evidence that LGBTQ is a social contagion. I think it has become trendy and "in" to have 8 different genders.

As far as religious stuff goes, that is far from unique to Charlie and is widely accepted in the evangelical world. My in-laws are the nicest people and he is clearly in charge of the house, she is definitely submissive and it is 100% due to their Methodist beliefs.

Religious extremism is it's own type of crazy.

I don't agree with it, but there's nothing wrong with adults who choose to live their life as they do.

Edit: Charlie said some not great things, but there is a clear intent to remove all context and cherry pick parts of entire thought to misrepresent what he was saying.

so much bullshit and so many excuses, so little time.

calling people's sexuality and/or innate identity a "social contagion" is so fucking reprehensible.

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

Yah....nobody is saying they can't say it. Freedom to say something isn't the same as freedom from consequences, especially when the speaker doesn't have the right to be somewhere.

Go cheer the death of people in YOUR country, where you're a citizen and have a right to be.

Actually, freedom to say something in freedom of consequences when the government is concerned.

You can't be deported for no other reason than exercising your constitutional right to free speech.

You may get fired. Your wife may leave you. But the government can't take action against you.

 

[4thgenheel]

He has been a Dem, again, for several years.

dude, calling a guy who was a long-time republican strategist and worked for the bush campaign and white house a "mainstream liberal" is a huge stretch. almost no one knows who the fuck he is, he's not a left wing thought leader. he switched parties like 4 years ago.

 

[Tar1978Heel]

Some crazy person killed Kirk. I’m not seeing the connection. Murder is not legal.

So he was now killed by a crazy person and not the hate speech he spewed…I have seen post on this thread he got killed for his words…Other words the chickens coming home to roost….

 

[mpaer]

So he was now killed by a crazy person and not the hate speech he spewed…I have seen post on this thread he got killed for his words…Other words the chickens coming home to roost….

Oh there is a reason a well known speaker was killed It is likely that his hate speech was the reason

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

Yes, victim blaming is a bad idea.

Yes, but back to the original point you responded to, it is a far cry from claiming democrats are terrorists, calling for the government to send the air force into cities, calling for war, etc.