The Charlie Kirk Thread

It seems like MAGA has totally forgotten Minnesota House of Representatives Speaker Emerita Melissa Hortman and her husband, killed by a right-wing lunatic. Where is their 'moment of silence'? And, unlike Kirk, Ms. Hortman wasn't spreading hate and lies.
 
I haven't been able to get a single Dem poster to acknowledge meaningful involvement of their party in this current situation.

I can if they apply.

Right. Dems have no meaningful involvement. Dems are just "calling it like it is and, I mean, they're right, so what's wrong with saying what is true?"

Standard stuff for which I have no cure.
It might help your case if you could produce examples of Dems having meaningful involvement. You're one of those morons who thinks Obama was "divisive" when in reality he bent over backwards to be bipartisan. Obama's 2004 DNC speech was considered to be an implicit rebuke of John Edwards' "two Americas" campaign stylings -- which itself was mostly a chronicle of the relative privilege of the rich over the poor.

You watched Kamala campaign with Liz Cheney. You're saying that Dems are "meaningfully involved" in the division when a great deal of their electoral strategy in the most recent election was the sanctity of bipartisan democracy? Kamala and Liz Cheney never agreed on anything, and they made a show of coming together. You know, in the tradition of "the loyal opposition." That was the tenor of the J6 Committee as well.
 
Could you expand on this a bit. I'm not sure I catch your meaning.
"chaser" is slang in the trans community for people who seek out trans people for sexual partners because of a fetish they have about transness. and pretty often, they're folks who will publicly denigrate trans people or "ideology."

kind of a more contemporary analog of the stories you'll hear from older gay men about their relationships and escapades with men in hetero marriages.
 
"chaser" is slang in the trans community for people who seek out trans people for sexual partners because of a fetish they have about transness. and pretty often, they're folks who will publicly denigrate trans people or "ideology."

kind of a more contemporary analog of the stories you'll hear from older gay men about their relationships and escapades with men in hetero marriages.
Got it. Yes, I agree.
 
yeah, i realize now it was unclear but i was adding to your point, not responding
No problem at all. We're good. Plus, your post is only confusing for those who don't know what "chasers" mean. That's at least partly my responsibility -- but now I know, which is one reason to participate in a message board like this.
 
It might help your case if you could produce examples of Dems having meaningful involvement.

Right. Thanks for supporting the point I made earlier, which is that the things Democrats say aren't reckless and harmful rhetoric because they are true, which is why you just can't figure out anything they've done wrong.

Like I said, I had no misconceptions about getting agreement on this topic.
 
Right. Thanks for supporting the point I made earlier, which is that the things Democrats say aren't reckless and harmful rhetoric because they are true, which is why you just can't figure out anything they've done wrong.

Like I said, I had no misconceptions about getting agreement on this topic.

Laura Loomer put him in the crosshairs? Said he should be willing to die for his stance and not a Trump supporter?

Nick Fuentes beefing with kirk?
 

Laura Loomer put him in the crosshairs? Said he should be willing to die for his stance and not a Trump supporter?

Nick Fuentes beefing with kirk?
Governor Cox and Kash Patel have already told you the shooter had leftist ideology, expect the indictment to be consistent with their claims. I doubt they’ll dig into the groyper overlap.

With Kash & Friends putting it together, I won’t be surprised to read that in the days prior to the shooting, Tyler Robinson was feverishly studying the writings of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez.
 
I can’t think of many occasions where the NFL held moments of silence for people who either were not affiliated with the NFL or were not members of the community where the moment of silence took place. And it’s especially difficult to wrap my head around someone whose claim to fame was essentially saying so many cruel, divisive, hateful, and inflammatory things getting a moment of silence at such an event.
He spoke on behalf of billionaires everywhere, so many such people mourn his passing.
 
I haven't been able to get a single Dem poster to acknowledge meaningful involvement of their party in this current situation.

I can if they apply.

Right. Dems have no meaningful involvement. Dems are just "calling it like it is and, I mean, they're right, so what's wrong with saying what is true?"

Standard stuff for which I have no cure.
"meaningful involvement" is way subjective.

i've said this to you no less than 17 times over the last several days. there are some examples of bad, divisive rhetoric from the left but it is categorically outnumbered in both frequency and temperature by the rhetoric coming from right wing politicians and influencers.
 
Right. Thanks for supporting the point I made earlier, which is that the things Democrats say aren't reckless and harmful rhetoric because they are true, which is why you just can't figure out anything they've done wrong.

Like I said, I had no misconceptions about getting agreement on this topic.
By your standards, MLK, Gandhi and Jesus were all "divisive." Which, incidentally, was what the white Southerners, British and Romans said in each instance.
 

Laura Loomer put him in the crosshairs? Said he should be willing to die for his stance and not a Trump supporter?

Nick Fuentes beefing with kirk?
Again... anything is possible but Kirk was clearly anti-trans, anti-gay, anti-LGBTQ. Tyler was in some kind of relationship and living with a transgender person.

I guess I don't see how anti-semitism/white nationalism fits into this
 
By your standards, MLK, Gandhi and Jesus were all "divisive." Which, incidentally, was what the white Southerners, British and Romans said in each instance.
Perfect. Now Dems are really just like Jesus, Gandhi and MLK.

Again, thanks for supporting my point.
 
The cross dresser part is unsubstantiated, but not the gay part. His lifelong "close friend" Clyde Tolson sure as hell acted like a life partner. They would go on vacation together. Hoover bequeathed his estate to Tolson. Tolson accepted the flag that draped Hoover's coffin. Tolson is buried a few yards away from Hoover.

Roy Cohn was a source of information about Hoover, and he was definitely credible on that particular subject. Cohn's take was that Hoover was too scared of his sexuality to act on it, but that's still confirming that he was gay or bi. As for the cross-dressing, you're right a lot of the published material relies on an unreliable witness, but Roy Cohn apparently told people about it before it became a topic of public discussion. Now, that's hearsay and unreliable I think, but it's more than just one witness. That said, it is not well established at all.

The homo/bisexuality seems pretty solid, even if there are people who deny it. Another piece of evidence: Lela Rodgers was his beard.
In my reading about non-monogamous relationships, it seems that this is a lot more common than most would believe.
 
I can’t think of many occasions where the NFL held moments of silence for people who either were not affiliated with the NFL or were not members of the community where the moment of silence took place. And it’s especially difficult to wrap my head around someone whose claim to fame was essentially saying so many cruel, divisive, hateful, and inflammatory things getting a moment of silence at such an event.
I think the moments of silence by some NFL teams this weekend were unwarranted, but let's not forget that the NFL honored a dude who live-streamed himself committing a drive-by shooting and then live-streamed himself running from the police in a high-speed chase before shooting at a cop and being killed in the return fire. The NFL allowed players to wear his name on their helmets if they chose. None did. The same NFL then prohibited the Cowboys from honoring 5 police officers killed during an ambush with their own decals. So, it isn't as if the NFL is consistently pandering to the right. They pander to anyone depending on how the wind is blowing.
 
I think the moments of silence by some NFL teams this weekend were unwarranted, but let's not forget that the NFL honored a dude who live-streamed himself committing a drive-by shooting and then live-streamed himself running from the police in a high-speed chase before shooting at a cop and being killed in the return fire. The NFL allowed players to wear his name on their helmets if they chose. None did. The same NFL then prohibited the Cowboys from honoring 5 police officers killed during an ambush with their own decals. So, it isn't as if the NFL is consistently pandering to the right. They pander to anyone depending on how the wind is blowing.
Don’t disagree about the NFL blowing in the wind, but wasn’t the thing with the slain cops more a tone deaf enforcement of strict rules about equipment decals rather than some political action? The NFL didn’t say no, no don’t have a moment of silence or prayer or dedicate the game or do whatever else, they just wouldn’t make a (reasonable) exception to a strict uniform policy(?)
 
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