The Charlie Kirk Thread

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Bobfripp said:
I don't get it. Where's the threat?! Only he mind of MAGA could do the mental gymnastics necessary to view it as a call to violence.
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Sadly, that's the whole point.

The idea is to chill all out our speech. Yours and mine. If they prosecute someone whose speech is actually really out of bounds, then that has no chilling effect on us.

But.. if the prosecute someone for something that has absolutely no basis in law for prosecuting, it send the message that we all need to shut up or anything we say to could be prosescutable.

They want us to self censor. Don't self censor in advance. The law will not hold for their theory of the case. They don't win in court, they win when you self censor.
 
BlooVooDoo said:
Greenwood actually had a handful of songs reach #1 (country). No one remembers any of them but he doesn’t qualify as a one-hit-wonder.
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I just looked it up and he had 7 #1 hits on the country charts.

Interestingly, God Bless The USA topped out at #7, although it is the only one to go platinum (2x) or even gold.

If not for GBTUSA, he'd likely be largely forgotten outside of old country music fans. I like country and I only have a passing knowledge of his other songs.
 
Bobfripp said:
I don't get it. Where's the threat?! Only the mind of MAGA could do the mental gymnastics necessary to view the meme as a call to violence.
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The theory - such that it is - is that the poster made a reference to a Perry High School shooting in Iowa and he lived near Perry High School in Tennessee, which made parents nervous that he was implying a shooting at their Perry High School.
 
Calheel said:
The theory - such that it is - is that the poster made a reference to a Perry High School shooting in Iowa and he lived near Perry High School in Tennessee, which made parents nervous that he was implying a shooting at their Perry High School.
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So he got a $2M bond and is still in jail? Are we sure this is real? I mean, even if he was implying a shooting, that's not illegal without more
 
4thgenheel said:
authoritarian thought policing. really, really chilling that this is happening in america.

crickets from the callaramyeah's on this kind of thing, of course.
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No crickets

I honestly thought there had to be more than the story that was posted online. After reading articles about it, there's not. That arrest is ridiculous and reminds me of the recent UK arrests for their citizens' social media posts. I'm totally against the charges by the Lexington Tenn officials but hopefully this can be overturned on appeal if there is a conviction. 100% overreach by the DA.
 
Ramrouser said:
No crickets

I honestly thought there had to be more than the story that was posted online. After reading articles about it, there's not. That arrest is ridiculous and reminds me of the recent UK arrests for their citizens' social media posts. I'm totally against the charges by the Lexington Tenn officials but hopefully this can be overturned on appeal if there is a conviction. 100% overreach by the DA.
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You should offer your services pro bono.
 
Ramrouser said:
No crickets

I honestly thought there had to be more than the story that was posted online. After reading articles about it, there's not. That arrest is ridiculous and reminds me of the recent UK arrests for their citizens' social media posts. I'm totally against the charges by the Lexington Tenn officials but hopefully this can be overturned on appeal if there is a conviction. 100% overreach by the DA.
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It shouldn't get to trial. It should be dismissed per Counterman v. Colorado. It was neither a true threat, and since it was not, I can't imagine that he would have had any mens rea. So no actus reus, no mens rea, no case.
 
Calheel said:
The theory - such that it is - is that the poster made a reference to a Perry High School shooting in Iowa and he lived near Perry High School in Tennessee, which made parents nervous that he was implying a shooting at their Perry High School.
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I immediately took it to mean that Trump, and MAGA, don't care about kids dying in school shootings (hence the meme quote of Trump) but are up in arms over a right-wing influence/podcaster getting killed.
 
Calheel said:
The theory - such that it is - is that the poster made a reference to a Perry High School shooting in Iowa and he lived near Perry High School in Tennessee, which made parents nervous that he was implying a shooting at their Perry High School.
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jfc. that reasoning is so transparently farcical bs and clearly not even remotely the point of the meme that he posted.

"made parents nervous" my ass - he pissed off the ammosexual crowd by pointing out their (and their dear leader's) staggering levels of hypocrisy with all of their crocodile tears about charlie kirk whilst they ignore all other gun violence (unless it is perpetrated by non white persons or members of the lgbtq community).
 
SnoopRob said:
I just looked it up and he had 7 #1 hits on the country charts.

Interestingly, God Bless The USA topped out at #7, although it is the only one to go platinum (2x) or even gold.

If not for GBTUSA, he'd likely be largely forgotten outside of old country music fans. I like country and I only have a passing knowledge of his other songs.
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Agreed. IOU, Dixie Road, Morning Ride and Holding a Good Hand are about his only other songs I remember
 
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