The Charlie Kirk Thread

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Ramrouser said:
I'm actually NOT for speech suppression but after coming out of the left's CANCEL CULTURE the past five years or so and Biden/Twitter's suppression of conservative speech on X I'm not going to be lectured by the totalitarian left.
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So, short version, two wrongs make a right, huh?
 
ZenMode said:
Agree. Not the kind of person you'd want in leadership.
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Well what kind of person do you want in leadership? The kind that makes fun of disabled reporters? The kind that calls everyone low IQ? The kind that lies constantly? Or how about one that calls trump America's Hitler then kisses trump's ass to become the VP? all while fucking his couch.

You people are so weird in your choice of outrage. This man's comments may be wrong, I've not read them, but they have no where near the negative impact or president and VP have today you support the president and don't call for him to be fired since he's "Not the kind of person you'd want in leadership"

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ZenMode said:
Nobody's speech is being supressed. He was, and still is, free to say whatever he'd like without the government taking action against him.
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I have literally not been able to stop laughing at you and Ram claiming suppression of speech only happens when the government takes action against a person to prevent him from speaking. Good God Almighty!!!! We've been listening to you dipshits whine for YEARS now about "cancel culture" and social media companies censoring speech by racists and fascists. I know you in particular think of yourself as a contrarian who "calls it like it is." But your true colors come through so much more often than you realize. You're just completely blind to your raging hypocrisy.
 
ZenMode said:
Nobody's speech is being supressed. He was, and still is, free to say whatever he'd like without the government taking action against him.
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For years this i what the totalitarian left has said in response to cries of cancel culture. Cancel culture has never been about government taking actions to suppress speech. It has always been about social reactions to speech. Conservatives decry it when the reaction opposes their views and support it when it's consistent with their views.
 
lawtig02 said:
I have literally not been able to stop laughing at you and Ram claiming suppression of speech only happens when the government takes action against a person to prevent him from speaking. Good God Almighty!!!! We've been listening to you dipshits whine for YEARS now about "cancel culture" and social media companies censoring speech by racists and fascists. I know you in particular think of yourself as a contrarian who "calls it like it is." But your true colors come through so much more often than you realize. You're just completely blind to your raging hypocrisy.
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I'd love for you to find past comments I've made about cancel culture and relay what I've said.

The argument regarding social media companies has nothing to do with cancel culture and I have no issue with social media companies censoring anything they'd like..... because speech is not protected on a privately owned forum any more than it is as it relates to being a member/leader of a club.
 
ZenMode said:
I'd love for you to find past comments I've made about cancel culture and relay what I've said.

The argument regarding social media companies has nothing to do with cancel culture and I have no issue with social media companies censoring anything they'd like..... because speech is not protected on a privately owned forum any more than it is as it relates to being a member/leader of a club.
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StrangePackage said:
Is this where you try to convince us that Hillary was not a traditional centrist Democrat? Or that Kamala didn't tack hard to the right in her campaign?
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I don't think Hillary's loss is much different than Kamala's loss. I think Hillary lost because the Democratic Party had aligned itself much too closely with the woke / cancel culture/censorship contingency and she did nothing to disavow it. I think Kamala was largely a victim of the same thing. Voters were pushing back against identity politics and trans activism and she did nothing to disavow either of those two things.
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ZenMode said:
I'd love for you to find past comments I've made about cancel culture and relay what I've said.

The argument regarding social media companies has nothing to do with cancel culture and I have no issue with social media companies censoring anything they'd like..... because speech is not protected on a privately owned forum any more than it is as it relates to being a member/leader of a club.
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farce© said:
Yeah, I think this is nonsense. Using a bathroom stall is one thing, parading around being an exhibitionist is something else entirely and I think your notion of the reaction of the “progressive/woke world” complete bullshit. I also don’t think you believe it, but you’re simply trying to be inflammatory and stir up shit.
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I absolutely believe in the impact of left-spearheaded cancel culture. Of course, there is also responsibility on the part of those who give in to the would-be cancelers. I'm glad that more entities are telling them to pound sand, but this gym is unlikely to...
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Ramrouser said:
I'm actually NOT for speech suppression but after coming out of the left's CANCEL CULTURE the past five years or so and Biden/Twitter's suppression of conservative speech on X I'm not going to be lectured by the totalitarian left.
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You're quite the hypocrite.

If Charlie Kirk was in heaven, he'd be looking down on you right now with disappointment. Luckily for you, he's not in heaven.
 
lawtig02 said:
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farce© said:
Yeah, I think this is nonsense. Using a bathroom stall is one thing, parading around being an exhibitionist is something else entirely and I think your notion of the reaction of the “progressive/woke world” complete bullshit. I also don’t think you believe it, but you’re simply trying to be inflammatory and stir up shit.
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I absolutely believe in the impact of left-spearheaded cancel culture. Of course, there is also responsibility on the part of those who give in to the would-be cancelers. I'm glad that more entities are telling them to pound sand, but this gym is unlikely to...
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So, let's look at the full context:

That's how cancel culture works/worked - fear of the far-left that has no problem ending your career/business for disagreeing with things like "We just don't want to see hairy balls in the Women's locker room".

I absolutely believe in the impact of left-spearheaded cancel culture. Of course, there is also responsibility on the part of those who give in to the would-be cancelers. I'm glad that more entities are telling them to pound sand, but this gym is unlikely to want the negative publicity, particularly in CA, of addressing the issue and "infringing" in the rights of a male to flaunt his nuts in the Women's locker room.

That entire thought, which is why I referenced "far-left", was in reference to very vocal minority, the so-called Twitter mobs, who were calling for firing of people and those who were allowing themselves to be pushed to fire people. That's why I said "there is also responsibility on the part of those who give in to the would-be cancelers."

And, yes, I don't think Democrats did enough to address that issue while Republicans were often portraying it as a free speech/censorship issue.
 
I miss the pre-Internet days when this unimportant topic (what the head of the Oxford Union said about a MINOR right-wing shill and the Oxford Union voting to oust or not oust its president) is a subject we’d never hear about.
 
ZenMode said:
So, let's look at the full context:

That's how cancel culture works/worked - fear of the far-left that has no problem ending your career/business for disagreeing with things like "We just don't want to see hairy balls in the Women's locker room".

I absolutely believe in the impact of left-spearheaded cancel culture. Of course, there is also responsibility on the part of those who give in to the would-be cancelers. I'm glad that more entities are telling them to pound sand, but this gym is unlikely to want the negative publicity, particularly in CA, of addressing the issue and "infringing" in the rights of a male to flaunt his nuts in the Women's locker room.

That entire thought, which is why I referenced "far-left", was in reference to very vocal minority, the so-called Twitter mobs, who were calling for firing of people and those who were allowing themselves to be pushed to fire people. That's why I said "there is also responsibility on the part of those who give in to the would-be cancelers."

And, yes, I don't think Democrats did enough to address that issue while Republicans were often portraying it as a free speech/censorship issue.
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PTOHeel said:
For years this i what the totalitarian left has said in response to cries of cancel culture. Cancel culture has never been about government taking actions to suppress speech. It has always been about social reactions to speech. Conservatives decry it when the reaction opposes their views and support it when it's consistent with their views.
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I don't think I've ever seen anyone associating cancel culture with government action. I do think there was a short-term pandemic of people being wrongly fired from jobs, in response to "Twitter mobs", that we have now largely moved past.
 
ZenMode said:
I don't think I've ever seen anyone associating cancel culture with government action. I do think there was a short-term pandemic of people being wrongly fired from jobs, in response to "Twitter mobs", that we have now largely moved past.
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The person being discussed was "fired from" his job for an unpopular post and you're celebrating it.
 
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