There are a lot of people who, due to legitimate safety concerns, want a more secure border. Neo-nazis also want a secure border essentially to keep the brown people out. The fact that two groups support a general idea doesn't mean they should be lumped together.
That’s a completely different issue. Trump wasn’t referring to the people who think we shouldn’t remove historical monuments but had the good sense to avoid the neo-Nazis at the Unite the Right rally “very fine people.” I’d agree some of that group may actually be “very fine people.” He called the people who eagerly marched alongside the racist, antisemitic neo-Nazis “very fine people.” And for that, he deserves every bit of criticism he’s received for saying it.
She was referencing a debunk claim that Trump was calling neo-nazis "fine people" when he wasn't and specifically condemned them seconds later in the speech:
As I said, I have zero expectations for Trump because he IS a fire hose of lies, hyperbole and idiocy. Nobody should expect honesty from him.
The rally was called Unite The Right, and it was organized by neo-Nazis. Do you know what the word "unite" means? Every single person there knew exactly who and what they were supporting. Every. Single. One.
lmao. anyone who is "a really big Robert E. Lee stan" is likely racist and a big problem all on their own even without being a bonafide nazi.
Is this how you operate in real life? Like, when you're watching a mob movie and the mobster shows up at a business and says, "nice establishment you've got here. I wouldn't want anything to happen to it," do you believe that the mobster is expressing sincere concern for the well-being of the owner?
Yeah so crazy to suggest that the guy who built his initial foray into national politics on birther critiques about the first Black president being born outside the US, built his first presidential campaign on both dog whistles and overt racism/xenophobia about immigrants, wondered why we should take immigrants from "shithole countries," and just stood on national TV and said that Haitian refugees (who he incorrectly calls "illegal immigrants") are killing and eating people's pets might have some racist tendencies and some sympathies towards white nationalists. Just no basis at all. Totally unfair.
I leaned a new word today. Stan: an overzealous or obsessive fan of a particular celebrity. Any day I learn something new is a good day.
She didn't say trump called the neo-nazis specifically "fine people." She said that after a horrific tragedy that resulted from a neo nazi-led rally the president felt the need to say that there were "fine people on both sides." I understand you feel that her attack is unfair, but to raise that one specific line as a critique of Kamala because you expect her to be perfect while Trump is a disaster is ridiculous. If this is what you really need to tell yourself to convince your own conscience that you're totally justified in not casting a vote for Donald Trump's opponent even though you claim to understand what a horrific candidate he is, then I guess you do you. But don't expect that the rest of us won't criticize that as immature BS.
Absolutely correct.
You'd lose money.
Your mob movie reference, IMO, is a attempt to pre-condemn Trump.
Seems like you are searching really hard for a reason to not vote for Kamala.
Just another example of how people will do mental gymnastics to try to cut through the words Trump says to the supposedly reasonable thing he actually meant. "Oh, when Trump is talking about immigrants eating people's pets, what he really means is that difficult cultural conflicts arise when refugees from other countries try to assimilate into American cities." And all to deflect from the fact that Trump openly courts and panders to white nationalists and racists, including by stocking his administration with them and stoking nativist fears about immigration taking "our country" away from "us." It's literally what built his political brand.
Trump has personally met with these people and asked the proud boys to “stand by.”
