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When news hits close to home. Turns out I had a niece that was at Camp Mystic (her and her sisters have gone there for years). She was rescued by helicopter and is now safe. Haven't talked much to the parents, but sounds like she saw some bad stuff.
 
Storms are in the forecast for this evening. Hopefully the rain stays away from the areas that were flooded.

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Durham PD said to avoid the following areas due to flooding:
-Anderson Rd. / Chapel Hill Rd.
-Garrett Rd. / Durham Chapel Hill Blvd.
-4200 Block of University Dr. (Between Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd. and Shannon Rd.)
-N. Duke St. / W. Morgan St.
-Hunt St./Foster St.
 
Zoo_View said:
Haw River Ballroom is Tom LaGarde and his wife, Heather. She’s a Carolina Friends alum. They’re two of the nicest people. Integral to Saxapahaw becoming what it is.
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Heather’s an old work colleague of mine. What she and Tom have done for/with Saxapahaw is nothing short of amazing.

Carolina Fever said:
Durham PD said to avoid the following areas due to flooding:
-Anderson Rd. / Chapel Hill Rd.
-Garrett Rd. / Durham Chapel Hill Blvd.
-4200 Block of University Dr. (Between Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd. and Shannon Rd.)
-N. Duke St. / W. Morgan St.
-Hunt St./Foster St.
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Near me.

It poured here for about 45-50 minutes straight, no letting up. If I had to hazard a guess, I’d say 2-3”.
 
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EyeballKid said:
Heather’s an old work colleague of mine. What she and Tom have done for/with Saxapahaw is nothing short of amazing.


Near me.

It poured here for about 45-50 minutes straight, no letting up. If I had to hazard a guess, I’d say 2-3”.
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For a period of time, people like Heather, Ross at the Butchery, Jeff and Cameron called my Mom “The Mayor of Saxapahaw.” If something needed doing or people needed to be brought together to help Saxapahaw, that was my Mom - according to Jeff, Ross, Cameron, Heather, etc.

Each time I introduced myself to a key Saxapahaw player, as soon as they knew who my Mom was, I was welcomed as family.
 
I've spent about 5,000 more hours in the NC mountains than in the Texas Hill Country so I'll acknowledge my view is skewed on this, but I am struggling so much to understand why there are still 160 people missing one week after the floods hit. I get that it's 60 miles or so of river that has to be searched and it's a massive mess. But one week after Helene, there were only 75 or so people still missing, and most of those were accounted for over the second week. And Helene impacted more than 10,000 square miles of rugged mountains.

I'm not saying this to blame anyone, but this disaster is just mindboggling to me. How do we not yet have a better sense of how many people actually died?
 
lawtig02 said:
I've spent about 5,000 more hours in the NC mountains than in the Texas Hill Country so I'll acknowledge my view is skewed on this, but I am struggling so much to understand why there are still 160 people missing one week after the floods hit. I get that it's 60 miles or so of river that has to be searched and it's a massive mess. But one week after Helene, there were only 75 or so people still missing, and most of those were accounted for over the second week. And Helene impacted more than 10,000 square miles of rugged mountains.

I'm not saying this to blame anyone, but this disaster is just mindboggling to me. How do we not yet have a better sense of how many people actually died?
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I don't know how much of a factor it is, but there are a number of articles out there about how how under Trump, DOGE, and Kristi Noem FEMA's ability to quickly and fully respond to these types of disasters has been significantly scaled back. For example, Noem now requires FEMA to get personal approval from her for any expenditure over $100,000, which considerably slows down their ability to send rescue and recovery teams into the affected areas. She didn't approve FEMA search and rescue teams for the Texas flooding until 72 hours after the flood. So I would think that has probably affected the ability to recover and account for missing people. There were statements from some former FEMA folks who were surprised at how "limited" FEMA's response was compared to previous disasters of this type. DOGE and Project 2025 wanted massive budget cuts, and when necessary things are cut this is what you get.
 
lawtig02 said:
I've spent about 5,000 more hours in the NC mountains than in the Texas Hill Country so I'll acknowledge my view is skewed on this, but I am struggling so much to understand why there are still 160 people missing one week after the floods hit. I get that it's 60 miles or so of river that has to be searched and it's a massive mess. But one week after Helene, there were only 75 or so people still missing, and most of those were accounted for over the second week. And Helene impacted more than 10,000 square miles of rugged mountains.

I'm not saying this to blame anyone, but this disaster is just mindboggling to me. How do we not yet have a better sense of how many people actually died?
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Much different terrain than the NC mountains - which has far more foliage. Most of the missing are buried under mud; mangled in debris fields.

Camp counselors that were aware of their cell phones were able to move campers to higher ground.
 
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