This Date in History

[sringwal]

I’ve been reading about it since you replied to me. Kind of embarrassing that I’ve never heard of this tbh. For me and for the institutions I came through.

My focus in college was generally on antebellum American history, so I guess it makes since in that context. I still would’ve expected to run into this at some other point in my coursework.

I had similar feelings when I learned about the Battle of Hayes Pond in college.

I appreciate it - and I don't mean any of this as a dig at you; we all have these gaps.

 

[sringwal]

1998

We just missed each other. I suspect, though, that we had some of the same professors.

 

[Zoo_View]

I wonder how many of today’s Lumbees would be KKKers (or happy to give the Klan a wink-and-nod)?

 

[Icky Mettle]

We just missed each other. I suspect, though, that we had some of the same professors.

Maybe even knew some of the same people who went there.

 

[donbosco]

1998

I taught this very subject (NC History) at Guilford College between 1993 and 1999 (part-time) and then again from 2005 until 2012. Alex Stoesen was the NC and US History guy that first time and then I took over a good deal of his courses when I came back full-time. We had a rule in the history department that I suspect still stands...no senior theses about this topic. From what I understand, there had already been too many by the time I got there in 1993.

 

[donbosco]

Maybe even knew some of the same people who went there.

Profs in History would have been Stoesen, Kircher, Malino, Cooley...perhaps Horton and of course, Israel.

 

[Icky Mettle]

Profs in History would have been Stoesen, Kircher, Malino, Cooley...perhaps Horton and of course, Israel.

I definitely had classes with Israel. I remember Kircher, Malino, and Cooley. I had classes with Malino’s husband.

 

[donbosco]

Malino and Malino split and she passed away about a year ago. Cooley is gone too.

Current department (with whom I am in touch often) is Slaby, Akins, Kircher, Chen, and Theusen.

 

[sringwal]

I had Kircher and Israel

 

[donbosco]

I had Kircher and Israel

Israel retired. Kircher is going strong...ever youthful but actually now the oldest in the department.

 

[Geisterfahrer]

I suspect most NC high school students don’t learn about the Wilmington Massacre (1898) or the Loray Mill Strike (1929) in Gastonia either.

Wilmington massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Loray Mill strike - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[donbosco]

I suspect most NC high school students don’t learn about the Wilmington Massacre (1898) or the Loray Mill Strike (1929) in Gastonia either.

Wilmington massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Loray Mill strike - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I’ll quote myself on this. The info was in the book but we never discussed it.

My 7th grade textbook was titled, ‘North Carolina: History-Geography-Government’ and it was written by Dr. Hugh T. Lefler from Cooleemee, NC and the Department of History at UNC. ‘NC:HGG’ was my book in 1971, had been published in 1959, and reprised much of the material from ‘North Carolina: The History of A Southern State’ from 1954. Lefler’s co-author in both was Dr. A.R. Newsome, also a native Tar Heel (Marshville) and UNC History Professor.

It mainly left out African Americans save to mention that they had been enslaved and according to Lefler, had been a ‘problem’ ever since emancipation. In his version, in the late 19th century conservative Democrats, whose leaders were the White Supremacist sons and descendants in most cases of slave holders and secessionists, had risen up against “Bad Government” and “Negro Rule” to eventually return the state fully to white control. He did mention briefly that “an organization called the ‘Red Shirts’ which used some of the methods of the old Ku Klux Klan” aided in “keep[ing] the Negro from voting” as part of that conservative, regressive return to power.

To continue in that same vein, about the murderous acts of White Supremacists in 1898 Lefler wrote: “After the election there was a race riot in Wilmington. Several Negroes were killed; many were driven from the city; a few white people were wounded; and the Democrats seized control of the city government.”

 

[Geisterfahrer]

I’ll quote myself on this. The info was in the book but we never discussed it.

That’s still a bonkers description. But it’s all sadly of a piece with Tulsa, Rosewood ad nauseam.

 

[donbosco]

#OTD (November 19) in 1958 one of the most famous Tar Heel-related tunes hit #1 on the Billboard Charts — “Tom Dooley” as sung by The Kingston Trio. Lots of us can sing that one and quite a few know the sad and too common backstory of love and violence it tells. But what else is ‘Out There’ that mentions North Carolina or a place, event, or person with Old North State connections? “The Wreck of the Old 97,” sung by many but made most famous by Johnny Cash names Spencer, NC in the opening stanza. Ben Folds Five’s “Where's Summer B?” laments the downfall of Chapel Hill’s beloved loon magnet The Hardback Cafe. Townes Van Zandt once looked up from Texas at a “Greensboro Woman” - a song for driving if you ask me. What Other Songs Can You Name (or link below to a YouTube or Lyrics site?) Kingston Trio Hits the Top of the Charts with “Tom Dooley” in 1958

 

[sringwal]

I suspect most NC high school students don’t learn about the Wilmington Massacre (1898) or the Loray Mill Strike (1929) in Gastonia either.

Wilmington massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Loray Mill strike - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

or the Burlington race riot, which was started because the school that I work at didn’t want to integrate the cheerleading squad.

VIOLENCE OF 1969 STILL HAUNTS VICTIM'S FAMILY\ THIRTY-TWO YEARS AFTER A RACE RIOT TORE BURLINGTON APART, A FAMILY SEEKS ANSWERS AND A CITY PONDERS RACE RELATIONS TODAY.

Zenobia Mebane recently retraced her son's steps on the last night of his life, walking gingerly through the underbrush of a vacant lot on Rauhut Street.

greensboro.com

 

[donbosco]

or the Burlington race riot, which was started because the school that I work at didn’t want to integrate the cheerleading squad.

VIOLENCE OF 1969 STILL HAUNTS VICTIM'S FAMILY\ THIRTY-TWO YEARS AFTER A RACE RIOT TORE BURLINGTON APART, A FAMILY SEEKS ANSWERS AND A CITY PONDERS RACE RELATIONS TODAY.

Zenobia Mebane recently retraced her son's steps on the last night of his life, walking gingerly through the underbrush of a vacant lot on Rauhut Street.

greensboro.com

That’s a good one.

 

[nycfan]

Wow, I had never heard of this. Thanks for sharing.

If you lived in NC at the time, you heard about it non-stop.

 

[donbosco]

The night before (Nov 18, 1980) a Rock Against Racism concert was held in the ‘New Tin Can.’ I went. I don’t remember the two bands mentioned in the article at all but do remember the political nature of the event. Unfortunately, my most vivid memory is that while I was in the Men’s Room a very drunk guy came in, stumbled to the urinal and then fell backwards onto his butt. As he lay there blood and brown liquid began to ooze from beneath him. It was evident very quickly that he had a pint bottle of bourbon in his back pocket that had shattered when he hit the floor. I helped him up. He was mildly familiar and in later years I saw him around town though we be we spoke of this again. I propped him up by the sink and ran for the medical folks I had seen earlier, brought them back, and they took him away.

 

[farce©]

On this date in 2004, Indiana Pacers star Metta Sandiford-Artest (Ron Artest) jumped into the stands to confront a Detroit Pistons fan who had thrown a drink on him, igniting a brawl between fans and players that came to be known as the “Malice at the Palace.”

 

[sringwal]

"Sheed trying to be the peacekeeper up in the stands."