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farce© said:
On this date in 2004, Indiana Pacers star Metta Sandiford-Artest (Ron Artest) jumped into the stands to confront a Detroit Pistons fan who had thrown a drink on him, igniting a brawl between fans and players that came to be known as the “Malice at the Palace.”
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On that same night, eventual men’s college basketball national champion UNC Tar Heels lost its season opener to Santa Clara.

I watched both the UNC game and “Malice in the Palace” while sitting at the bar at Picasso’s on East Boulevard in Charlotte. I have been told that the bartender serving me that night was Roy Williams’s nephew. I don’t know if that’s true, but he definitely looked like him.
 
On this day in 1977 Anwar Sadat personally traveled to Israel to present a peace plan to the Knesset. This act ultimately cost Sadat his life, which he must have known it would before he ever left Egypt. And now Isreal is ruled by Benjamin Netanyahu, who thinks starving and bombing civilians will somehow cause Palestinians to suddenly embrace the "Freedom" Israel offers.
 
donbosco said:
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#OTD (November 19) in 1958 one of the most famous Tar Heel-related tunes hit #1 on the Billboard Charts — “Tom Dooley” as sung by The Kingston Trio. Lots of us can sing that one and quite a few know the sad and too common backstory of love and violence it tells. But what else is ‘Out There’ that mentions North Carolina or a place, event, or person with Old North State connections? “The Wreck of the Old 97,” sung by many but made most famous by Johnny Cash names Spencer, NC in the opening stanza. Ben Folds Five’s “Where's Summer B?” laments the downfall of Chapel Hill’s beloved loon magnet The Hardback Cafe. Townes Van Zandt once looked up from Texas at a “Greensboro Woman” - a song for driving if you ask me. What Other Songs Can You Name (or link below to a YouTube or Lyrics site?) Kingston Trio Hits the Top of the Charts with “Tom Dooley” in 1958
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This could have its own thread...perhaps it did so before I arrived.
 
donbosco said:
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Key concept: The city needs to acknowledge what they did and apologize for what they did.

People who know exactly what the city did are still alive. The problem is not that this is ancient history. The problem is many people in the area think the protestors got what they deserved and the only thing the city needs to apologize for is that Klan/Nazis didn't kill more. Until the attitude that the protestors got what was coming to them changes, the city will never apologize.
 
grimes70 said:
Downtown and Cameron Village. Where to shop 50s and 60s.

The upper building close to Oberlin housed my pediatrician's office along with a bunch of others. The Hobby Shop a long tine tenant was the home of model trains, model kits and all kinds of neat shit kids and some adults loved.

I've posted before on IC that the Sears store (where HT is - both up and downstairs) had the White and Colored drinking fountains. My brother and I would wait for the blue/white haired ladiies to come by and drink from the Colored. Shocking! We said the water always tasted better from that one. If mom was nearby she would agree and sometimes take a gulp herself. Our little form of Civil Rights protest.

Knew a couple girls who worked in the "mod/hip" clothing stores in the Subway and waited at the Pier as well. Later a friend lived in one of those townhouses right behind the Subway. Spent quite a few nights on the couch there... Buffet decided he needed a regular backup band while hanging around the Pier one night after a show; thus the Coral Reefers. Cafe Deja View was a more jazzy place. Many memories and even more lost from the fog and haze of the times.

Now weekend nights might find you driving around a while trying to find a parking space if you want to dine there.
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Don't think I've ever heard that Buffett story before. That's pretty awesome.
 
donbosco said:
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I was dating a UNC Law student that was "clerking/interning" for a Law firm on the "good side " in this case . She reviewed video tapes for hours of the goons pulling out guns and shooting the folks killed. It was very clear to her it was premeditaded muder
 
On November 20, 1947, (then) Princess Elizabeth married Phillip Mountbatten. On November 20, 1992, Windsor Castle nearly burns down. Coincidence? Traditional 45th Anniversary gift - A Fire Sapphire.
 
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We’ve always been big on “Look Before You Leap” in North Carolina. Sure, we’ve been first on occasion; First State University, First English colony (and first English colony “Lost”), first powered flight (but those guys were from Ohio)…that said, usually our by-word is “Wait and See.”So fond were my Momma and her sister of that phrase that it literally drove me to distraction growing up.

There is a confounding, often infuriating, cautiousness about us that meshes well with our state motto of Esse Quam Videri (To be rather than to seem). It’s the North Carolinian at the awards ceremony over in the corner with the smug proud grin on his face holding his “Most Humble” trophy.

Indeed, there is an ironically Proud Humility about us. It’s not that we aren’t secretly excited to win, or that it isn’t our goal, just that we’re foresworn not to act like it’s a big thing. Historically, low key describes us well.

We’ll show up for a fight or a celebration to be sure - but just as quickly as we might be to engage so too will we drop out. In the Civil War more white Confederate North Carolinians died than from any other state - AND - more also deserted. The state didn’t secede until rebelling Virginia, Tennessee, and South Carolina basically hemmed it in. Even with Independence - as you shall see - we gauged our actions by those of our neighbors.

North Carolina adopted its motto in 1893, appropriately 13th of the Original 13 colonies to choose a saying. That adage, ‘Esse Quam Videri’ is taken from Cicero’s essay “Friendship.”

In translation and placed into context it goes like this: “…I am not speaking of virtue, but of a conceit of virtue; for NOT SO MANY DESIRE TO BE ENDOWED WITH VIRTUE ITSELF, AS TO SEEM TO BE SO, as Flattery delights such men: when conversation formed to their wishes is addressed to such persons, they think those deceitful addresses to be the evidence of their merits. This, therefore, is not friendship at all, when one party is unwilling to hear the truth, and the other prepared to speak falsely." Friendship : Marcus Tullius Cicero , Francis Bacon, Ralph Waldo Emerson : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

I think I like it even more when the original inspiration is laid out as truly about good will, devotion, and allegiance and most of all — honesty — warts and all. It would be a mighty good thing were North Carolinians to reach back and recollect the value of such virtues as we move into the challenging times ahead. Honesty. Value it. Reward it. Be it.

#OnThisDay (Nov. 19) in 1789 NC finally committed and became the 12th state of 13 to ratify the Constitution. New York had become the 11th state some 16 months before. The NC General Assembly had refused ratification in 1788 calling for a Bill of Rights. Read more on the NC Convention of 1788 here:

Convention of 1788 | NCpedia

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On Nov 21, 1995, the Dayton Accords were signed, ending the war in Bosnia.
 
On this date in 1920, one of history’s Bloody Sunday happened in Ireland


IRA members killed about a dozen suspected English spies and in retaliation that afternoon the Black and Tans decided to stop a soccer match and search for weapons among the patrons, leading to shots fired. About a dozen were killed and sixty more shot in the ensuing melee.

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[There were subsequent spasms of Sunday violence also referred to as Bloody Sunday over the years in Ireland — I think a lot of folks my age think of the one in 1972 when British troops fired on unarmed civilians, several shot while running away from the soldiers]
 
Voltaire (born November 21, 1694, Paris, France—died May 30, 1778, Paris)

Voltaire” is the pen name under which French author-philosopher François-Marie Arouet published a number of books and pamphlets in the 18th century. He was a key figure in the European intellectual movement known as the Enlightenment. Voltaire was quite controversial in his day, in no small part because of the critical nature of his work. His books and pamphlets contained scores of assaults on church authority and clerical power. They criticized French political institutions too, and many incorporated elaborate defenses of civil liberty. Voltaire’s ideas ultimately found expression in the French and American revolutions.
 
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