Tracking UNC’s School of Civic Life and Leadership

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I just half-read a guest op ed in the NYT from a prof in UNC’s newest right-leaning discipline. It’s provocatively titled

An Infantilizing Double Standard for American College Students

This is my first exposure to the output from this recently-developed politically-motivated school. I’m fading for the night, will finish in the AM.

For now, I thought it might be good to start a thread on the school itself and its political and sociocultural impact as we move forward.
 
Reading this leaves me deeply embarrassed that she is on faculty at Carolina. This is the bullshit that the dook guy is going to leave us with. In 5 years Carolina will be a shell of what it once was….and it will all be at the feet of the GOP.
 
Reading this leaves me deeply embarrassed that she is on faculty at Carolina. This is the bullshit that the dook guy is going to leave us with. In 5 years Carolina will be a shell of what it once was….and it will all be at the feet of the GOP.
The d00k guy will be Governor in 2029.

The flag stunt was the first in a series of “watch us now.”
 
Circling back to this now that I’ve finished reading the piece. What a load of crap!

Found this, uh, “enlightening” interview with the author. She sounds insufferable.


“I wrote my book out of a personal interest in the problem of exercising authority over children in a liberal democracy. I always resented having it exercised over me in school, so I was, for an otherwise serious student, frequently in trouble. Most of my teachers seemed totally inept, and I didn’t see why they should wield any kind of power over me, so I invested a lot of effort in mostly absurd ploys to undermine them. But in college, I totally lost this impulse. I encountered for the first time a critical mass of teachers who seemed naturally authoritative – they were erudite and impressive and I wanted to be like them instead of to humiliate them.

My dissertation, which became my book, was an effort to understand this seeming contradiction in liberalism – on one hand, children are mostly fools like me, and need authority to reach adulthood successfully. But on the other, there are few resources in our political theory, which is grounded in equality and liberty, to justify such authority. So I looked to early modern educational theorists like Locke and Rousseau to see how they dealt with this problem in their arguments for new approaches to education suited to this new regime.“

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“RK: In the article, I argue that the “right to read” (like most students’ rights, as it happens) is a mirage and a strategic invention by educators who wanted to evade parental and community oversight for their curricular choices – in this case, the books they selected for school curricula and school libraries. Appeals to the “right to read” have made our subsequent book removal and censorship debates impossible to resolve because they allow one side – mostly the side that wants to shelve controversial books that parents and boards disapprove of – to hide behind “student rights” instead of making the positive case for their selections and being accountable to the ordinary governance structure of schools for them.

These ordinary forms of democratic school governance – oversight by elected boards – have come to be maligned as censorship and “book banning,” which only empowers unelected and unrepresentative educators to govern local schools.”
 
Circling back to this now that I’ve finished reading the piece. What a load of crap!

Found this, uh, “enlightening” interview with the author. She sounds insufferable.


“I wrote my book out of a personal interest in the problem of exercising authority over children in a liberal democracy. I always resented having it exercised over me in school, so I was, for an otherwise serious student, frequently in trouble. Most of my teachers seemed totally inept, and I didn’t see why they should wield any kind of power over me, so I invested a lot of effort in mostly absurd ploys to undermine them. But in college, I totally lost this impulse. I encountered for the first time a critical mass of teachers who seemed naturally authoritative – they were erudite and impressive and I wanted to be like them instead of to humiliate them.

My dissertation, which became my book, was an effort to understand this seeming contradiction in liberalism – on one hand, children are mostly fools like me, and need authority to reach adulthood successfully. But on the other, there are few resources in our political theory, which is grounded in equality and liberty, to justify such authority. So I looked to early modern educational theorists like Locke and Rousseau to see how they dealt with this problem in their arguments for new approaches to education suited to this new regime.“

……

“RK: In the article, I argue that the “right to read” (like most students’ rights, as it happens) is a mirage and a strategic invention by educators who wanted to evade parental and community oversight for their curricular choices – in this case, the books they selected for school curricula and school libraries. Appeals to the “right to read” have made our subsequent book removal and censorship debates impossible to resolve because they allow one side – mostly the side that wants to shelve controversial books that parents and boards disapprove of – to hide behind “student rights” instead of making the positive case for their selections and being accountable to the ordinary governance structure of schools for them.

These ordinary forms of democratic school governance – oversight by elected boards – have come to be maligned as censorship and “book banning,” which only empowers unelected and unrepresentative educators to govern local schools.”

I thought most of the interview was pretty shallow but I think her "right to read" answer was the most interesting. She rightly points out that the "right to read" movement is really just a way to switch authority for curriculum and library choices from elected school board officials to unelected technocrats.

The "right to read" argument is effective but not very honest. Students have the right to read whatever books that school administrators choose. You won't find porn or Mein Kampf in a school library despite their being student interest, especially in the former.

So the right to read argument is pretty dishonest, but the discussion on who should make student curriculum decisions is a valid one. Should it be Suzy homemaker or Pastor Richards on the school board with little background in education but who are much more answerable to the voters? Or should it be the administrators with a PhD in education who are not very answerable to voters? I'll add one more option which she didn't mention: Federal control which is common in other countries.

I would advocate that we use the talent that we could marshall at the federal level but I also understand how blatantly undemocratic that position is. It helps that I tend to agree with the unelected technocrats on how best to educate kids. If I didn't agree with them, I'd likely be howling about the system.
 
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The "right to read" argument is effective but not very honest. Students have the right to read whatever books that school administrators choose. You won't find porn or Mein Kampf in a school library despite their being student interest, especially in the former.

So the right to read argument is pretty dishonest, but the discussion on who should make student curriculum decisions is a valid one. Should it be Suzy homemaker or Pastor Richards on the school board with little background in education but who are much more answerable to the voters? Or should it be the administrators with a PhD in education who are not very answerable to voters? I'll add one more option which she didn't mention: Federal control which is common in other countries.

I would advocate that we use the talent that we could marshall at the federal level but I also understand how blatantly undemocratic that position is. It helps that I tend to agree with the unelected technocrats on how best to educate kids. If I didn't agree with them, I'd likely be howling about the system.
You wouldn't find porn in a K-12 school library because porn is age-restricted and almost no one in K-12 is old enough to have access to it.

There shouldn't be a real outcry against having a copy of Mein Kampf in a HS library. I wouldn't put it in an elementary or middle school library due to the nature of the material, but the more mature HS kids should be able to handle it.

There are perfectly good reasons to keep some books out of school libraries, but it's very unlikely that Suzy Homemaker or Pastor Richards are the folks to have the education/training to make those decisions.
 
Circling back to this now that I’ve finished reading the piece. What a load of crap!

Found this, uh, “enlightening” interview with the author. She sounds insufferable.


“I wrote my book out of a personal interest in the problem of exercising authority over children in a liberal democracy. I always resented having it exercised over me in school, so I was, for an otherwise serious student, frequently in trouble. Most of my teachers seemed totally inept, and I didn’t see why they should wield any kind of power over me, so I invested a lot of effort in mostly absurd ploys to undermine them. But in college, I totally lost this impulse. I encountered for the first time a critical mass of teachers who seemed naturally authoritative – they were erudite and impressive and I wanted to be like them instead of to humiliate them.

My dissertation, which became my book, was an effort to understand this seeming contradiction in liberalism – on one hand, children are mostly fools like me, and need authority to reach adulthood successfully. But on the other, there are few resources in our political theory, which is grounded in equality and liberty, to justify such authority. So I looked to early modern educational theorists like Locke and Rousseau to see how they dealt with this problem in their arguments for new approaches to education suited to this new regime.“

……

“RK: In the article, I argue that the “right to read” (like most students’ rights, as it happens) is a mirage and a strategic invention by educators who wanted to evade parental and community oversight for their curricular choices – in this case, the books they selected for school curricula and school libraries. Appeals to the “right to read” have made our subsequent book removal and censorship debates impossible to resolve because they allow one side – mostly the side that wants to shelve controversial books that parents and boards disapprove of – to hide behind “student rights” instead of making the positive case for their selections and being accountable to the ordinary governance structure of schools for them.

These ordinary forms of democratic school governance – oversight by elected boards – have come to be maligned as censorship and “book banning,” which only empowers unelected and unrepresentative educators to govern local schools.”
Good god, this sounds like a caricature of some insufferably smug contrarian in a half-baked sitcom, except it’s allegedly from a real person.
 
You wouldn't find porn in a K-12 school library because porn is age-restricted and almost no one in K-12 is old enough to have access to it.

There shouldn't be a real outcry against having a copy of Mein Kampf in a HS library. I wouldn't put it in an elementary or middle school library due to the nature of the material, but the more mature HS kids should be able to handle it.

There are perfectly good reasons to keep some books out of school libraries, but it's very unlikely that Suzy Homemaker or Pastor Richards are the folks to have the education/training to make those decisions.
I think you're missing the point.
 
So you’re happy for her meaningless contrarianism for contrarianism’s sake? Stunning, coming from you.
I’d go further to say that hers isn’t meaningless contrarianism. Perhaps self-aggrandizing cynicism, instead? It’s in line with the right-wing plan to devalue expertise in education and pedagogy and to tear down the modern university, so I’m not surprised she’s found a home at the new UNC school and is being pimped out to the NYT in its service.
 
As someone who has a good many high school teachers as friends, I really appreciate her derision of teachers as "inept" and that she basically saw no reason to listen to them and only wanted to humiliate them. Maybe if she had listened to them more she wouldn't sound like the insufferably smug and pompous person that she does today. I'm sure she was a real charmer in high school.
 
I’d go further to say that hers isn’t meaningless contrarianism. Perhaps self-aggrandizing cynicism, instead? It’s in line with the right-wing plan to devalue expertise in education and pedagogy and to tear down the modern university, so I’m not surprised she’s found a home at the new UNC school and is being pimped out to the NYT in its service.
I think its more in line with the GOP goal of offering a different perspective at the University level. I may not agree with it but I want to hear it.
 
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