Trump 2.0

[Callatoroy]

"Yup, his gross incompetence is our only real hope."

But he isn't grossly incompetent. Do you think trump's ego allows him to listen to his advisors like most presidents do? Does he think he is always the smartest person in the room? My guess is most on here would agree with the comment about his ego and thinking he is the smartest person in the room. Incompetent people don't win 2 presidential elections. Quit making the mistake that he is incompetent. Look at the intended actions and not the vessel for communicating it.

 

[lawtig02]

"Yup, his gross incompetence is our only real hope."

But he isn't grossly incompetent. Do you think trump's ego allows him to listen to his advisors like most presidents do? Does he think he is always the smartest person in the room? My guess is most on here would agree with the comment about his ego and thinking he is the smartest person in the room. Incompetent people don't win 2 presidential elections. Quit making the mistake that he is incompetent. Look at the intended actions and not the vessel for communicating it.

So after all you’ve said about Biden the last four years, you’re now taking the position that people who win presidential elections are by definition competent?

 

[Callatoroy]

You cannot separate the individual from the Presidency. It is a unique office in that regard. The Presidency is the individual. That is precisely why the Presidency right now is neutered because the person in the office is so diminished in his capabilities.

Donald Trump single handedly wrecked our nation's response to COVID. He cost thousands of lives because of his foolishness. The overly drastic responses in many places were as much a counter balance to his idiocy as anything else. A coherent national strategy would have worked wonders. He did that with the spectre of an election hanging over his head. He has no such constraints this time.

Simply not true. Trump did make mistakes. He didn't single handedly wreck our nation's response to covid. There were MANY mistakes made by people in both parties. Are you forgetting Cuomo, Newsome, Fauci, etc?

 

[wmheel1287]

"Yup, his gross incompetence is our only real hope."

But he isn't grossly incompetent. Do you think trump's ego allows him to listen to his advisors like most presidents do? Does he think he is always the smartest person in the room? My guess is most on here would agree with the comment about his ego and thinking he is the smartest person in the room. Incompetent people don't win 2 presidential elections. Quit making the mistake that he is incompetent. Look at the intended actions and not the vessel for communicating it.

He is absolutely grossly incompetent. What are his successes in life outside of conning people? What businesses has he run with success? Line those up against his failures.

 

[theel4life]

You can't or won't relate to the common voter and that is why we have trump.

The common voter is a moron. That is why we have Trump.

 

[ZenMode]

Just how bad will it be? We all know how disastrous his first term was . 2.0 has me terrified.

 

[Lando]

Funny how all of the sexual assault gets forgotten when admitting Trump's faults. Figured I'd help with the completely innocent oversight.

 

[Bobfripp]

"Yup, his gross incompetence is our only real hope."

But he isn't grossly incompetent. Do you think trump's ego allows him to listen to his advisors like most presidents do? Does he think he is always the smartest person in the room? My guess is most on here would agree with the comment about his ego and thinking he is the smartest person in the room. Incompetent people don't win 2 presidential elections. Quit making the mistake that he is incompetent. Look at the intended actions and not the vessel for communicating it.

Even some (sane) senators from his own party thought he was grossly incompetent, almost from Day 1.

"It's a shame the White House has become an adult day care center. Someone obviously missed their shift this morning."

— Senator Bob Corker R-TN (@SenBobCorker) October 8, 2017

'White House has become an adult day care center': GOP senator in war of words with Trump

Republican Sen. Bob Corker is in a war of words with President Trump.

abcnews.go.com

"The tweet comes after Corker drew attention Wednesday by saying, "I think Secretary [Secretary of State Rex] Tillerson, Secretary [of Defense Jim] Mattis and chief of staff [John] Kelly are those people that help separate our country from chaos."

and then there's this ... at least Nikki Haley supports him.

 

[theel4life]

I know trust me.

"Yup, his gross incompetence is our only real hope."

But he isn't grossly incompetent. Do you think trump's ego allows him to listen to his advisors like most presidents do? Does he think he is always the smartest person in the room? My guess is most on here would agree with the comment about his ego and thinking he is the smartest person in the room. Incompetent people don't win 2 presidential elections. Quit making the mistake that he is incompetent. Look at the intended actions and not the vessel for communicating it.

 

[superrific]

"Yet, I haven't been brainwashed by a media going hysterical for 10 years. You guys over sensationalize everything about trump. There is zero independent thought on the left when it comes to trump. "

it is impossible to be brainwashed when you read the primary source material, as I always try to do. the idea that we are brainwashed because we remember things that happened -- i mean, it's so sad. do you think i'm brainwashed when i comment on supreme court opinions? or do you think i read the opinions and form my own judgments? do you think i'm brainwashed when i comment on public finance? or do you think that maybe i have some expertise?

stop projecting. and stop assuming that the things you don't remember didn't happen. until j6, the worst betrayal of the american people in our modern history was trump's demand that ukraine dig up dirt on biden. it is not acceptable for the president to leverage american foreign policy, especially foreign policy as directed by congress, for his own personal benefit. that should have been instantly disqualifying for everyone. of course, then he held his own beer on jan 6.

family separation happened. reversal of climate control regulations happened. reversing regulations to prevent employers from stealing tips happened. repealing Obamacare very nearly happened. his tax cuts for the wealthy happened -- tax cuts that incentivized offshoring of operations (america first, hah!), and prioritizing passive investment (which adds very little to gdp). the judicial appointments happened and the fucking morons he appointed are destroying the judiciary.

he pardoned arpaio, which was a direct affront on the rule of law given that the underlying offense was contempt of court. he pardoned blagojevich, who was convicted of the sort of corruption offense that trump was committing himself. he pardoned his peeps manafort and bannon in a naked display of patronage.

he started a trade war that did nothing for the us except raise prices and wipe out the export business of farmers, so he had to then reach into the public coffers to bail them out. and he looks back at that and thinks, wow we need more!

against that, his good policies included what? well, there was the one law kanye conned him into signing. he had a pretty good policy on balance billing, though it didn't go far enough (biden finished the job for him).

 

[WaynetheDrain]

Literally fascinating to me that 2 lawyers, with 7 years of formal education and years of practice, actually believe what they are posting. That isn't a shot at either of you. That is sincere wonderment at how you got where you are.

And we are all in sincere wonderment of how much of a human shit stain you’ve devolved into.

I mean, was it that your parents didn’t do a good job raising you? Or maybe poor public education in whatever shithole town you slithered out of? Or maybe the local white supremacy organization took you in at an early age and provided you with a sense of family for the first time in your life? I don’t know how someone becomes…whatever it is you’ve become.

And the worst part of it all if that you KNOWINGLY voted for a rapist who nearly plunged our country into a constitutional crisis four years prior when he refused to cede power. And you only did it for one reason: To own those woke libs.

And the sad thing is, you are so bereft of friends in your life that you choose to spend hours every day embarrassing yourself on a liberal message board as some sort of, what? Revenge? Pettiness? Therapy? I honestly don’t know, but it’s just incredibly sad and pathetic that people like you exist in this world.

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

Honestly I think the country won’t recover inside of my lifetime (I’m in my early 40’s). If we even survive as a Democracy, it will take a generation to correct the SCOTUS and the Bureaucracy that he is going to wreck.

There is a possibility that he wrecks it so thoroughly that’ll it will destroy the movement and push radical steps in the opposite direction.

That isn’t a comforting thought though.

 

[Duke Mu]

 

[Duke Mu]

That still doesn’t have anything to do with how bad the next four years will be.

When billionaires explain to the working class that they need billionaires to make decisions for the working classes, and that these decisions will help the working class instead of the billionaires...except PSYCH!..the decisions really helps the billionaires!

Then you might have been gaslighted.

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

My biggest concern is how Trump will react to the immunity ruling. We already know he has inquired on shooting protesters. Now we know he can’t be held accountable for that or for pardon promises to those who carry out such an order. And the people who talked him out of trying such things are no longer around.

I am also concerned with the possibility that Trump makes good on his immigration deportation promises. Such a move would ruin the US economy but would also result in a humanitarian nightmare. You can’t deport tens of millions of people or hold them in camps. Hitler learned that pretty quickly.

But now I am worried about his threats against US allies. It seems crazy but I worry about the Greenland thing. Some people claim Trump makes these threats for leverage but I just can’t see what type of leverage he needs against Denmark. I think he might actually want to invade Greenland as some sort of legacy project and that could literally result in a war with NATO.

The only motivation I can think of is that he is baiting NATO to say they will defend Greenland which he can use to turn public support against NATO to justify us pulling out. Something like, “See they want to go to war with us. They are not our friends.”

 

[UNCBAdookJD]

You can't or won't relate to the common voter and that is why we have trump.

We aren’t running for office, we don’t need to relate to anyone. The average American voter is an idiot and Republicans, grifters that they are, are better at messaging to idiots. There’s a reason there’s an enormous chasm between college educated and uneducated voters. The funny thing is, with the H-1B kerfuffle, the ignorant racists in the Republican coalition are waking up to the fact that they were marks in an oligarch’s con job, and minorities who supported Trump are waking up to the fact that Dems weren’t lying about the Republican Party being full of racist rubes.