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I know right? Black Irish culture couldn't possibly exist alongside Protestant English/Germans, much less that of Italian Papists. Certainly Chinamen/Japanese/Koreans would be unable to cope with Western civilization and fail to prosper while polluting 'our' culture. Don't even get me started on the Jews and Bohunks from central European hellholes.

No 'different' culture has ever been compatible with the 'culture' of this land, much less flourished. History is certainly crystal clear on that account.
I didn't call out any specific cultures as being incompatible. I just said that some cultures are not compatible with other cultures and some cultures aren't as conducive to flourishing as other cultures.

Do you doubt that's true?
 
Well posters are commenting on Rubio's speech at the Munich Security Conference so I was asking why no comment on AOC's question and answer session. While AOC may not currently have actual power over foreign policy she is a leading candidate for the Democratic Presidential nomination and this event was designed to showcase her foreign policy credentials.

I'll drop it as per your request.
You're trying to divert attention away from the Secretary of State to a Rep from the Bronx?

You guys maybe realize it or maybe you don't, but so very often you use women of color for your whatabouts. So. Freaking. Often. And if not women of color, definitely women in general.
 
I didn't call out any specific cultures as being incompatible. I just said that some cultures are not compatible with other cultures and some cultures aren't as conducive to flourishing as other cultures.

Do you doubt that's true?
Yes.
 
So you really believe that fundamentalist Islamic culture is compatible with Western culture? How's it working out in Europe?
 
I didn't call out any specific cultures as being incompatible. I just said that some cultures are not compatible with other cultures and some cultures aren't as conducive to flourishing as other cultures.

Do you doubt that's true?
I believe the culture that produces these sorts of thoughts is incompatible with intelligent life.
 
I didn't call out any specific cultures as being incompatible. I just said that some cultures are not compatible with other cultures and some cultures aren't as conducive to flourishing as other cultures.

Do you doubt that's true?
Absolutely. I've interacted with people from dozens of cultures all over the world. There outlook on life, goals, dreams and aspirations have been remarkably compatible with mine. Cultures 'flourish' when they exist in a legal/political system emphasizing the rule of law and individual rights. 'Western culture/Christianity' was a total shitshow in the feudal system of the middle ages. Amazing how well various 'cultures' 'flourish' when they exist in systems like the United States or Europe typically have versus autocratic or theocratic systems elsewhere.
 
So you really believe that fundamentalist Islamic culture is compatible with Western culture? How's it working out in Europe?
If the fundamentalists are trying to create a theocracy, they are not compatible with American culture. If they are not doing that, then they are compatible.

It's always the same boogeymen with you and your type. Islamic fundamentalists are basically the same as Jewish fundamentalists, and neither are all that different from Christian fundamentalists. If you want to say that Enlightenment culture and cultures of revelation can never have more than an uneasy truce, that's defensible. The idea that Islamic fundamentalists alone are the problem is ludicrous.
 
Can you imagine how shocked American evangelicals would be if they realized how similar the teachings they hear from the pulpit every Sunday are to what's taught at a madrasa in Iran?
You really believe evangelical Christians are comparable to fundamentalist Islam?

Google AI provides that proponents of fundamentalist Islam advocate a return to 7th century "pure" Islamic fundamentals, viewing Islam as a comprehensive, mandatory legal and political system for society rather than just a personal faith.

Tenets:

Literal Interpretation of the sacred texts
Comprehensive Sharia Law: Islamic law should dictate all aspects of life, including governance, politics and the economy.
Khilafa: The goal of establishing the state governed by religious authority
Anti Western sentiment: The desire to eliminate "corrupting" foreign influences and Western secularism
Jihad: Mandate for action, often emphasizing militancy to defend or spread Islam.
Return to Origins: A focus on purifying Islam by returning to the practices of the first generation Muslims.

Doesn't sound compatible to Western societies to me.
 
I didn't call out any specific cultures as being incompatible. I just said that some cultures are not compatible with other cultures and some cultures aren't as conducive to flourishing as other cultures.

Do you doubt that's true?
It's almost definitionally true. Whatever utility function you posit for measuring cultures, different cultures will score differently. It's not that interesting an observation, as it depends critically on what is meant by compatible, conducive and flourishing. And no, I'm not interested in your weird ZenMode-proprietary-language take. If I wanted to watch masturbation I'd watch a 41 year old Cristiano Ronaldo taste himself while jogging around the pitch.
 
Can you imagine how shocked American evangelicals would be if they realized how similar the teachings they hear from the pulpit every Sunday are to what's taught at a madrasa in Iran?
Like the thread w Callatoroy a few weeks back that was discussing immigrants assimilating to our culture, MOST Conservatives that talk about this really mean our culture is that of Christianity and that’s what they want them to assimilate to. These same Christians want Christianity to be the official religion of the US.

If they REALLY wanted assimilation they would also support the separation of church and state. They would respect all religions and non religious beliefs but of course they don’t.
 
If the fundamentalists are trying to create a theocracy, they are not compatible with American culture. If they are not doing that, then they are compatible.
So, you're saying that if they shed the culture that makes them incompatible with Western culture, and take on a different culture that is compatible with Western culture, they'd be compatible?

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You really believe evangelical Christians are comparable to fundamentalist Islam?

Google AI provides that proponents of fundamentalist Islam advocate a return to 7th century "pure" Islamic fundamentals, viewing Islam as a comprehensive, mandatory legal and political system for society rather than just a personal faith.

Tenets:

Literal Interpretation of the sacred texts
Comprehensive Sharia Law: Islamic law should dictate all aspects of life, including governance, politics and the economy.
Khilafa: The goal of establishing the state governed by religious authority
Anti Western sentiment: The desire to eliminate "corrupting" foreign influences and Western secularism
Jihad: Mandate for action, often emphasizing militancy to defend or spread Islam.
Return to Origins: A focus on purifying Islam by returning to the practices of the first generation Muslims.

Doesn't sound compatible to Western societies to me.
The words are different in fundamentalist Christianity but the concepts are the same. Fundies are literalists. They want religious law to apply. They don't say they want a theocracy per se (i.e. rule by clerics) but they want the government to be religious in character. They definitely try to eliminate corrupting foreign influences -- geez, they do that more than Islam. A focus on purifying religion? What exactly do you think Puritanism was all about? The Great Awakening? Originalism in constitutional interpretation?
 
You really believe evangelical Christians are comparable to fundamentalist Islam?

Google AI provides that proponents of fundamentalist Islam advocate a return to 7th century "pure" Islamic fundamentals, viewing Islam as a comprehensive, mandatory legal and political system for society rather than just a personal faith.

Tenets:

Literal Interpretation of the sacred texts
Comprehensive Sharia Law: Islamic law should dictate all aspects of life, including governance, politics and the economy.
Khilafa: The goal of establishing the state governed by religious authority
Anti Western sentiment: The desire to eliminate "corrupting" foreign influences and Western secularism
Jihad: Mandate for action, often emphasizing militancy to defend or spread Islam.
Return to Origins: A focus on purifying Islam by returning to the practices of the first generation Muslims.

Doesn't sound compatible to Western societies to me.
Man, I've seen a lot of own goals on here, but this one will be hard to top.

Yes, American evangelicalism in 2026 is 100% in support of every single of those tenets. Hell, 95% of Trump's cabinet supports every single one of those tenets.
 
So you really believe that fundamentalist Islamic culture is compatible with Western culture? How's it working out in Europe?
As well as fundamentalist Christian nationalists. Hell, you can't hardly tell the difference without a scorecard.
 
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