Trump Admin takes over D.C. Policing

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“… The number is still expected to grow. But the role of the additional troops appears vague, and the answers to even basic questions, including whether they will be armed, have shifted.

… The places where the troops have been deployed so far tell part of the story. Most have been seen near the National Mall, large monuments and other tourist-heavy areas.

… The rules of engagement for the troops, at the moment, remain limited to supporting, but not providing, law enforcement. That means that troops are not making arrests, though Army officials acknowledged that could change if Mr. Trump decides that he wants an even more forceful presence.

… The decision to arm National Guard troops in Washington will be made by operational commanders on a mission-by-mission basis, Army officials said….”
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It's performative crimefighting, plain and simple. And don't hand me that it's "freeing up" the DC police to patrol more dangerous areas. This very expensive deployment is mostly for show - feed Trump's ego, allow his minions to strut around feeling powerful, and give MAGAs the satisfying feeling that those crime-infested big city hellholes are finally being brought under the control of the "right" kinds of people.
 
nycfan said:


“… Every day, the White House issues a summary of the previous night’s operation, including the number of arrests and some examples of arresting causes. Numbers of illegal firearms seized (68 overall as of Tuesday morning) and encampments cleared (48 overall) are included, too.

The Washington Post repeatedly reached out to the White House for the arrest records undergirding their statistics and has not received answers to questions about the specific details of each arrest.

[Feds won’t respond, DC police say White House has to provide the data, and then pointed to Mayor for DC police specific data but mayor doesn’t have arrest data]

… As a result, there’s a black hole instead of the usually readily accessible basic information surrounding an arrest. For example, when D.C. police make an arrest there will be a “Public Incident Report” — a public document that includes, among other things: the offense and its location and date and a short description of what happened. D.C. police continue to provide the reports for crimes in which local officers made the arrest, but refuse to answer questions about many of the arrests made by the multiagency federal task force teams, despite D.C. police officers being embedded within many of them.

… Between Aug. 7 and 19 last year, D.C. police alone made 667 arrests. It is unclear whether the numbers the White House is releasing each day include any D.C. police arrests or are solely limited to arrests made by federal officers.

… Federal officers have been seen around the District wearing masks while making arrests and driving off in unmarked cars — making it difficult to discern which agency could provide information about who was arrested, where they were taken and why.…”
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"… Between Aug. 7 and 19 last year, D.C. police alone made 667 arrests. It is unclear whether the numbers the White House is releasing each day include any D.C. police arrests or are solely limited to arrests made by federal officers."

The number mean nothing without last data for comparison. And, it stands to reason that some criminals with take a break from being a criminal when they know there's aaw enforcement focus on their area. The DC police put out a stat saying that carjacking was down 83%. Ok why? Do we believe that 83% of carjackers have been arrested or do we believe that would-be carjackers are delaying their jacking until the NG leaves?
 


Vagrants, drug addicts, chronically homeless and mentally ill … are attacking families (?)
 
nycfan said:


Vagrants, drug addicts, chronically homeless and mentally ill … are attacking families (?)
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But I do get that people who use Union station would rather not have to deal with panhandlers and sketchy crazy looking people acting bizarre. I rode the subways in NYC for years and dealt with a lot of that. There is no question it can be disquieting to gross to scary sometimes when a mentally ill person is acting out in a public space like that.
 
nycfan said:
But I do get that people who use Union station would rather not have to deal with panhandlers and sketchy crazy looking people acting bizarre. I rode the subways in NYC for years and dealt with a lot of that. There is no question it can be disquieting to gross to scary sometimes when a mentally ill person is acting out in a public space like that.
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Did you ever think to yourself, "you know what we need? A military presence down here in the subway to protect us"? 'Cause I didn't, and I rode the train to Brooklyn at night.

It reminds me of the Cat Burglar episode of the Simpsons
 
superrific said:
Did you ever think to yourself, "you know what we need? A military presence down here in the subway to protect us"? 'Cause I didn't, and I rode the train to Brooklyn at night.

It reminds me of the Cat Burglar episode of the Simpsons
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No, though I did turn in a guy trying to expose himself to elderly women to a transit cop one time. And I rode the train at shocking hours, though almost never alone after midnight.

In fact I had to fly to DC not long after 9/11 and was freaked out by armed military in the airport.
 
nycfan said:
No, though I did turn in a guy trying to expose himself to elderly women to a transit cop one time. And I rode the train at shocking hours, though almost never alone after midnight.

In fact I had to fly to DC not long after 9/11 and was freaked out by armed military in the airport.
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I also had one time in my evening commute on a packed train a crazy vagrant stand right up against me (we were packed in like sardines) and make threatening and lewd comments. I just stared at the floor until a man put himself between us and told me to “step in [between him and crazy vagrant], you don’t have to put up with that” I stepped in and said thanks but be cool man because I did t want some Bernie Goetz moment. The vagrant got off at the next stop screaming at everyone to get fucked.

I would have liked not to have to deal with him. That kind of thing is not an uncommon experience in a lot of cities and makes it too easy for too many frustrated people to think well, good, Trump may be extreme but I’m sick of stinking hobos on my train. 🤷‍♀️
 
nycfan said:
I also had one time in my evening commute on a packed train a crazy vagrant stand right up against me (we were packed in like sardines) and make threatening and lewd comments. I just stared at the floor until a man put himself between us and told me to “step in [between him and crazy vagrant], you don’t have to put up with that” I stepped in and said thanks but be cool man because I did t want some Bernie Goetz moment. The vagrant got off at the next stop screaming at everyone to get fucked.

I would have liked not to have to deal with him. That kind of thing is not an uncommon experience in a lot of cities and makes it too easy for too many frustrated people to think well, good, Trump may be extreme but I’m sick of stinking hobos on my train. 🤷‍♀️
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Which American cities have trains for hobos to ride? Chicago's El has 10% of the ridership of New York's subways.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
Very weird. I don’t see any Democrats walking up to them and secretly whispering, “Thank you sirs for making my city safe again so I can dine out at a restaurant.”
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I mean they said they got rid of all the criminals, how could any Democrats even remain after that?
 


Sigh. Appears that the DC cop steps back to let the masked marauders do their thing. Maybe the guy is a gangster with acting skills. We probably will never know.
 
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