Trump Admin takes over D.C. Policing

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superrific said:
Lies repeated thousands of times remain lies.

I don't understand why the MAGA mouthbreathers bother expressing their "opinions" over here. Nobody cares. We can find that same bullshit on google in 15 seconds if we're so inclined. It's invariably the same racist refrain over and over again.

Maybe one of these days MAGA will wake up and realize that rural Mississippi and Alabama are bigger shitholes than the countries they complain about. I've seen landfills less cluttered with junk than southern West Virginia. I would gladly exchange my Guatemalan roofer for five PandemicBlues.
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While I agree that the same lies repeated are a waste. I do appreciate actual opinion as I want to understand and I want our leaders to understand and collaborate on resolutions to issues.

It makes no sense to me that there are issues both parties have concerns with yet they refuse to do their jobs and work together on a resolution.
 
Callatoroy said:
To argue against trump's involvement in dc policing based on falling crime statistics is a losing argument to anyone who doesn't have tds. DC is a crime ridden shit hole and has been almost since dc came under dim control back in the 70's. There are logical arguments that can be made against this action by trump based on other criteria, but citing falling crime statistics that are still among the highest in the nation doesn't demonstrate much intellect.
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If we're discussing "rampant" crime, why wouldn't crime statistics matter?

You are correct that there are other reasons this shouldn't be happening, but the prevailing argument is that crime is our of control in DC, so where's the evidence to support this? And where do we draw the line, can the federal government just take over policing in every city? I thought that the right wanted smaller government, this doesn't seem to align.
 
ZenMode said:
Playing the race card. That's original!

The only one bringing up race is you. I'm looking at her words and her previous position which in no way qualifies her for Chief.
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Why not try to not be seen as racist based on your post, instead of hiding behind idiotic systems like yours here?

If you didn't project as a racist people probably wouldn't call you racist, had nothing to do with a "race card" that simple a cop out because you can't defend the assertion that you are not racist.

If you are not racist prove it through your actions and positions.
 
Callatoroy said:
You and hardly anyone else who can read have your heads stuck up your asses and are either to blind (at best) or willfully ignorant to admit the problem in dc. You don't like it that trump is going to fix a problem in dc that dim mayors all over the country have and then get the credit for it. So your automatic reflex is to pretend the problem is nonexistent. Go see a shrink.
www.theatlantic.com

Trump Is Right That D.C. Has a Serious Crime Problem

But he has the wrong answer for how to fix it.
www.theatlantic.com www.theatlantic.com
www.yahoo.com

Woman gunned down in 'safe' DC neighborhood as Trump launches federal police takeover

Fatal shooting happened in Washington D.C. after Trump federalized police force and deployed National Guard members alongside other federal law enforcement agencies.
www.yahoo.com www.yahoo.com

dcist.com

Despite Falling Violent Crime, Some Adams Morgan Residents Say They Feel Less Safe

A spate of burglaries and window smashing at local businesses has the community on edge. Neighbors want accountability for that and other property crimes, but don’t agree on what kind.
dcist.com dcist.com
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Unfortunately I don't have a subscription to the Atlantic, but what I could read seems to agree with my position that trump is taking the wrong approach.

My position is not that DC is perfect, I just don't see a federal take over as solving the issue. In my opinion it's only a test of power for trump in his continued pursuit of dictatorial power.
 
1moretimeagain said:
At times Trump has shown patience with violent protests.
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Yes, pardoning J6 felons comes to mind.

I am all for reducing crime, I just don't understand how anyone can get behind this hypocrite, felon, liar, narcissist as the answer.

As with everything it's not the topic, it's his mob boss approach. Which is clear when he pardons felons that agree with him and targets those who don't bow down to him.
 
So who else is worried the national guard is in place specifically to put down any protests from trump doing something relatively inconceivable like arresting Obama, selling out Ukraine or dissolving Congress altogether?
 
UNCatTech said:
Why not try to not be seen as racist based on your post, instead of hiding behind idiotic systems like yours here?

If you didn't project as a racist people probably wouldn't call you racist, had nothing to do with a "race card" that simple a cop out because you can't defend the assertion that you are not racist.

If you are not racist prove it through your actions and positions.
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I don't need to prove anything because nothing I said was related to the color of her skin.

The only racism I see is the fact that an unqualified person was apparently promoted to chief of police because of the color of her skin.
 
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UNCatTech said:
Unfortunately I don't have a subscription to the Atlantic, but what I could read seems to agree with my position that trump is taking the wrong approach.

My position is not that DC is perfect, I just don't see a federal take over as solving the issue. In my opinion it's only a test of power for trump in his continued pursuit of dictatorial power.
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I understand why you feel that way because most of what you consume probably tells you that. But that isn't the case. If he is going to become a dictator then he better hurry up as he has a bunch of work to do to put those pieces in place. You need to have more faith in the American people. Did he take over LA?

The point of the that article is not that what he is doing is right or wrong. Its that the previous 50 year approach by the D's isn't working and something that can have immediate results needs to be done. It's time for action. That is what he is doing. It will be successful in the short term and then when he backs out it will just relapse back to what it is unless people elect different people with different views on crime.
 
uncgriff said:
So who else is worried the national guard is in place specifically to put down any protests from trump doing something relatively inconceivable like arresting Obama, selling out Ukraine or dissolving Congress altogether?
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Hahahahahahahah crazy nicolas cage GIF
 
UNCatTech said:
Yes, pardoning J6 felons comes to mind.

I am all for reducing crime, I just don't understand how anyone can get behind this hypocrite, felon, liar, narcissist as the answer.

As with everything it's not the topic, it's his mob boss approach. Which is clear when he pardons felons that agree with him and targets those who don't bow down to him.
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Targeting? Like using the IRS to go after conservative groups?
 
Callatoroy said:
I understand why you feel that way because most of what you consume probably tells you that. But that isn't the case. If he is going to become a dictator then he better hurry up as he has a bunch of work to do to put those pieces in place. You need to have more faith in the American people. Did he take over LA?

The point of the that article is not that what he is doing is right or wrong. Its that the previous 50 year approach by the D's isn't working and something that can have immediate results needs to be done. It's time for action. That is what he is doing. It will be successful in the short term and then when he backs out it will just relapse back to what it is unless people elect different people with different views on crime.
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LA is a great example of this being the wrong approach. It wasn't needed and was a waste of money.

If DC is such an issue restore the funding that was cut earlier.

Again, I do not agree with his approach.
 
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My guess that they'll have to plead the sandwich preppie down to a misdemeanor - they'll never bring the felony charge to a DC jury.
 
UNCatTech said:
If we're discussing "rampant" crime, why wouldn't crime statistics matter?

You are correct that there are other reasons this shouldn't be happening, but the prevailing argument is that crime is our of control in DC, so where's the evidence to support this? And where do we draw the line, can the federal government just take over policing in every city? I thought that the right wanted smaller government, this doesn't seem to align.
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Smaller g'ment? Sure. But when things get screwed up to the point locals can't and won't fix the situation, it has to step in and save them from themselves.
Albuquerque is in a state of emergency due to the local leaders (dimocrats) being soft on crime and lack of accountability with juveniles. So the governor (who happens to be a dim also), has decided she has to intervene with the NM National Guard. Will be very interesting to see if she gets the same criticism from the left that trump is getting. My guess is she won't. The left just refuses to hold anyone accountable for crime. That perception is going to be driven home by the right over and over. It won't take much persuading voters either because the see it for themselves.
 
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