Trump Catch-All | Trump won’t rule out military action to take Panama Canal or Greenland; changing name of Gulf of Mexico to Gulf of America

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So it’s the premise here that the press and media haven’t criticized Trump enough? ok…..i’m watching MSNBC and it continues to be non stop Trump hate and “end-of-the-world” predictions.

The legacy media scares your side until you’re curled up in the corner sucking your thumb.
That's interesting, your take on fear.

Considering the fear that trump sold.
You know the fear of everyone crossing the boarder being murders and rapist. The fear of them taking your jobs. The fear of a child being born here receiving citizenship. The fear of change in the auto markets. The fear of socialism and Marxism. The fear of who might be in the bathroom with you. The fear of someone taking your precious guns. The fear of non-christian religions in a country with religious freedom.

The issues the left have with trump don't come from the media, they come from, Mr dictator for a day, trump. The man who could have stopped Jan 6th before it started, but didn't because he wanted it. The man that loves to suck up to dictators. The man that makes statements about shooting press members. One doesn’t have to watch the news, one can simply watch the rallies.
 
MSNBC isn't what I would consider to be legacy media, though I have admittedly watched a grand total of about 4 hours of it in its entire existence (about the same for Fox News).
It isn't. It's mostly opinions, just like fox.

It seems to be a challenge to keep people interested in 24/7 news.
 
I strongly suspect that the "problematic perception" of the Democratic Party that you're referring to is that they support the rights of LGBTQ people, and given that many Americans vastly exaggerate the percentages of such people in our population Trumpers are convinced that Democrats won't stop until every schoolchild is undergoing secret taxpayer-funded gender affirming surgery. Which is nuts, of course, and is a lie fed by right-wing media.

What I think people like you fail to see is that many Republicans - including many in Congress and state governments and some on the Supreme Court - would love to use transphobia as a wedge issue to go after the entire LGBTQ community, including rolling back gay marriage rights and gay rights generally. And I'll say it again, anyone who voted against Kamala because of "taxpayer funded sex change surgeries" is a gullible and myopic voter. Given all of the vast number of problems in our society, to be worried about such an insignificant thing is more revealing of the person voting based on such trivialities than it shows about the Democrats or Kamala, imo.
Sure, there are R voters would take away the right for LGBTQ to marry. Those are people who are "confused" on what it means to have rights that can't be infringed upon by the government. There are legit racists, homophobes, transphobes, etc, but I don't think for a second there are 74 million or even half that and the broad-brush painting of all Trump voters (different than supporters) as being deplorables or garbage or a just a bunch of uninformed racists, xxxphobes, etc is why the Dem party is losing, IMO.
 
Sure, there are R voters would take away the right for LGBTQ to marry. Those are people who are "confused" on what it means to have rights that can't be infringed upon by the government. There are legit racists, homophobes, transphobes, etc, but I don't think for a second there are 74 million or even half that and the broad-brush painting of all Trump voters (different than supporters) as being deplorables or garbage or a just a bunch of uninformed racists, xxxphobes, etc is why the Dem party is losing, IMO.
No, they are losing because that's the truth, unfortunately.
 
So it’s your premise that you can sit in judgment of “legacy media” while not actually viewing any content from legacy media sources like WaPo, NYT, CNN, NPR, CBS, NBC, ABC.

Cool.
I read and see clips of what the legacy media is reporting through sources. In addition, many of NBC's reporters appear on MSNBC. I also watch the Sunday news shows.
 
That's interesting, your take on fear.

Considering the fear that trump sold.
You know the fear of everyone crossing the boarder being murders and rapist. The fear of them taking your jobs. The fear of a child being born here receiving citizenship. The fear of change in the auto markets. The fear of socialism and Marxism. The fear of who might be in the bathroom with you. The fear of someone taking your precious guns. The fear of non-christian religions in a country with religious freedom.

The issues the left have with trump don't come from the media, they come from, Mr dictator for a day, trump. The man who could have stopped Jan 6th before it started, but didn't because he wanted it. The man that loves to suck up to dictators. The man that makes statements about shooting press members. One doesn’t have to watch the news, one can simply watch the rallies.
I'm not talking about the political parties, during election season, trying to scare voters about the other side. That's been done forever. Republicans have been trying to cut social security and kill grandma since the early 1980s.

I'm talking about the media actually trying to scare or hype up its viewers - presumably for ratings. You saw it during COVID and it continues today.
 
I'm not talking about the political parties, during election season, trying to scare voters about the other side. That's been done forever. Republicans have been trying to cut social security and kill grandma since the early 1980s.

I'm talking about the media actually trying to scare or hype up its viewers - presumably for ratings. You saw it during COVID and it continues today.
You mean like FOX’s fearmongering over undocumented immigrant crime, immigrant caravans, etc? Or FOX’s fearmongering over vaccine mandates? Or FOX’s fearmongering over Biden getting us into WW3? Or FOX’s fearmongering about the economy? Or FOX’s fearmongering about trans people?
 
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You mean like FOX’s fearmongering over undocumented immigrant crime, immigrant caravans, etc? Or FOX’s fearmongering over vaccine mandates? Or FOX’s fearmongering over Biden getting us intro WW3? Or FOX’s fearmongering about trans people?
Don’t forget Fox’s fear-mongering and lying about “stolen elections” in 2020.
 
I'm not talking about the political parties, during election season, trying to scare voters about the other side. That's been done forever. Republicans have been trying to cut social security and kill grandma since the early 1980s.

I'm talking about the media actually trying to scare or hype up its viewers - presumably for ratings. You saw it during COVID and it continues today.
I read most of my information and take opinions with a grain of salt.

Some things, like cutting SS benefits being in Trump's annual budget proposals each year he was previously president are not opinion, there's proof to support that.

As for COVID that was a unique situation in that I don't believe anyone knew the answers at first and they adapted as more information was available.

I've seem many, after the fact, claim that it wasn't as bad based on final numbers. It is my belief that the preventative actions actually kept the number of cases down. Had we done nothing, as many claimed we should have, i believe the numbers would have been higher. Do you believe we would have been better off yo have taken none of the preventative actions that we tried?

Now if you are simply discussing hype, that's basically what news is, since most news is outside what we expect in a normal day or in a routine normal presidency.

I don't recall similar adulation for certain world leaders from previous presidents, as we saw/see from Trump. This supports my position that it's not so much the opinions, it's trumps actual words and actions.

At this point we will see how the next 4 years go. Though gotchas can seam appealing in theory, i don't want to see the country fall apart or slide into economic uncertainty, so i hope that it is hyperbole and that the next 4 years end up being as positive as possible.

It would be nice also if the republicans could understand the life of marginalized people without pretending that outliers are the norm, so that we can continue to move toward everyone being seen equally in the eye of the government and the law.
 
Sure, there are R voters would take away the right for LGBTQ to marry. Those are people who are "confused" on what it means to have rights that can't be infringed upon by the government. There are legit racists, homophobes, transphobes, etc, but I don't think for a second there are 74 million or even half that and the broad-brush painting of all Trump voters (different than supporters) as being deplorables or garbage or a just a bunch of uninformed racists, xxxphobes, etc is why the Dem party is losing, IMO.
And yet the broad brush painting of all Dem voters as woke libtard communists doesn't seem to hurt Pubs. In fact, I think it is demonstrably true that it helps them.
 
And wholly unsurprising. If Republicans believed differently they would elect different leaders.
Maybe, but Trump hasn't taken an "evangelical" position on abortion, gay marriage or really anything that is important to Christians, has he?
 
The judges he appointed sure have.
It is? You can say that they opened the door to states fully banning it, but they also opened the door to states being even more liberal in allowing it, haven't they?
 
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Trump’s sense of humor seems out of whack (even more than usual) on the Canada as a state thing.


That's insulting to call PM Trudeau Governor of a state. Our nation will be led by a clueless boor in 2025.
We will be Ugly Americans to the rest of the world. Except those nations where Trump has economic ties. God help us all.
 
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