Trump Criminal & Civil Cases | GA Supremes DQ Willis

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superrific said:
1. SCOTUS could delay that decision as long as it wanted. Remember, Jack Smith showed up to the Supreme Court in late December and we got a decision on the very last day of the term. That was after the DC Circuit issued an expedited ruling. If Jack Smith had showed up six months earlier, the time frame would have been the same.

If Jack Smith had shown up at SCOTUS a year earlier, SCOTUS could have stayed the lower court's proceeding and then set the case for argument in the next term.

The point is that the Court can almost infinitely manipulate its own schedule. Given that it ran out the clock as long as necessary, there's no reason to think they wouldn't have delayed it by that much.

Oh, and keep in mind, SCOTUS could come back after remand and say, "Chutkan was wrong; these acts are all official [and/or the evidence about them inadmissible] and the indictment must be dismissed." You're assuming a favorable disposition for the remaining appeals, but that is very much not a given. In fact, I'd say it's unlikely.

2. You're also ignoring the follow-up. The DC judge could have sorted out the charges . . . and then Trump would have appealed that. That would go to DC Circuit, and there wouldn't be a quick turnaround because the legal issues are highly unsettled (unlike the original immunity claim). If the appeals court found fault (remember: there are Trumpy judges who could be drawn from the panel, and in addition, Chutkan could make mistakes that any judge would correct), it would send the case back to Chutkan, then back to the DC Circuit, etc. Even if Chutkan would be upheld on appeal, SCOTUS would review. Again, that wouldn't be quick. You'd have to add at least a year -- at least -- to your timeline.

And then there's the Jack Smith appointment issue, which wouldn't be addressed until ***after*** the immunity stuff is sorted out.

3. To put it differently, if Kamala had won, the case would likely not to go to trial in 2025. Given where the case was left, there's probably at least two years more of bullshit from the immunity decision to sort through. We'd be looking at a trial in mid 2026 at the earliest. Other lawyers can offer their own estimates, but I doubt it will vary much from what I have.

If the Supreme Court wanted Trump on the ballot, it could make that happen regardless of anything Garland does.
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Well, at least the DOJ was able to successfully prosecute and convict Hunter Biden so Garland has that feather in his cap...
 
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heelinhell said:
Well, at least the DOJ was able to successfully prosecute and convict Hunter Biden so Garland has that feather in his cap...
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What do you want from him? The Supreme Court is corrupt and full of radical, partisan extremists. That's why we're in the predicament we're in.

I know that you agree with me that the Supreme Court is responsible for so much of our political dysfunction. This has been going a long time but has been supercharged recently. I kept banging my head whenever I saw interviews with voters complaining that Biden promised debt relief for school loans and didn't deliver. Sigh.

We are going to have to find a way to change the court or restore the balance of powers, because otherwise the Supreme Court will destroy everything itself with or without help from Trump.
 
Ramrouser said:
Briefly:

There were LOTS of voting irregularities in the 2020 election with all the COVID loosened voting procedures.

I did not support further election challenges by Trump and his allies after December 15th - the date of certification.
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Who led the charge to loosen the voting procedures? Can't remember her name for the life of me.
 
A Georgia court just found that Fani Willis violated Georgia's Open Records Act. She's ordered to produce, within 5 days, all communications she had with Jack Smith and the J6 Committee to plot the RICO case against Trump.

Very interesting.
 
lawtig02 said:
Ramrouser's law partner was one of the chief architects of Trump's scheme to overturn the election results in Georgia, including by inducing fake electors to submit a fraudulent ballot showing Trump won. He doesn't give a shit about the House findings.
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That explains a lot
 
Ramrouser said:
Don't think his criminal attorney would allow it. It's not whining to complain about the Biden Administration orchestrating a Stalinist type legal persecution against their "enemies." You see it differently, believing all of the state and federal civil and criminal charges are legit, fine. We'll see what the NY and Ga appellate courts say.

I don't think retribution will be a major issue with this Administration - there's too many other things to focus on. But.... Garland/Smith and their band of Jacobins need to be investigated, fired, shamed and perhaps prosecuted.
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Ramrouser said:
Are you referring to the Hollywood produced Show Trial that no one remembers? Seriously, ya'll need to move on. We're about to embark on the most exciting, impactful 2 year period in US history, with the restructuring of the bureaucracy and military, so hop aboard. After all, 71% of Americans support DOGE.
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Lol dude name this after his meme coin and surely won't cut spending on his own contracts.

Naives!
 
The Georgia Court of Appeals has reversed the trial court holding the lower court "erred by failing to disqualify DA Willis" and her entire office from the case. Fani will likely appeal (cert) to the Ga Supreme Court which will likely be denied.

The case is almost over. Merry Christmas.
 
Reading the 31 page opinion.

"While we recognize that an appearance of impropriety generally is not enough to support disqualification, this is the rare case in which disqualification is mandated and no other remedy will suffice to restore public confidence in the integrity of these proceedings."
 
Ramrouser said:
Reading the 31 page opinion.

"While we recognize that an appearance of impropriety generally is not enough to support disqualification, this is the rare case in which disqualification is mandated and no other remedy will suffice to restore public confidence in the integrity of these proceedings."
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IN other words, the details here would not be enough to support a DQ in any case EXCEPT in this one specific case for some reason ...
 
The Democratic Party has turned into a clown show. I would love to see the meltdown if a Trump administration brought cases against a Democratic presidential candidate based on nothing more or less than the cases brought against Trump.....perfectly timed with the announcement of his re-election campaign by the way. The outrage then would be off the charts by the same people who drooled for a conviction....any conviction on any of the charges Trump faced.

Well it's too late. The voters saw through your BS and kicked out the worst administration I have ever seen. I watched Kamala yesterday and wondered how 75 million people could have voted for her to lead this country. It has to be loyalty to a party to the point of outweighing pure common sense. Well, thank goodness a Kamala Harris administration didn't come to pass. Too bad all the damage Biden and his crowd caused to this country can't be thrown out along with them.
 
PandemicBlue said:
The Democratic Party has turned into a clown show. I would love to see the meltdown if a Trump administration brought cases against a Democratic presidential candidate based on nothing more or less than the cases brought against Trump.....perfectly timed with the announcement of his re-election campaign by the way. The outrage then would be off the charts by the same people who drooled for a conviction....any conviction on any of the charges Trump faced.

Well it's too late. The voters saw through your BS and kicked out the worst administration I have ever seen. I watched Kamala yesterday and wondered how 75 million people could have voted for her to lead this country. It has to be loyalty to a party to the point of outweighing pure common sense. Well, thank goodness a Kamala Harris administration didn't come to pass. Too bad all the damage Biden and his crowd caused to this country can't be thrown out along with them.
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PandemicBlue said:
The Democratic Party has turned into a clown show. I would love to see the meltdown if a Trump administration brought cases against a Democratic presidential candidate based on nothing more or less than the cases brought against Trump.....perfectly timed with the announcement of his re-election campaign by the way. The outrage then would be off the charts by the same people who drooled for a conviction....any conviction on any of the charges Trump faced.

Well it's too late. The voters saw through your BS and kicked out the worst administration I have ever seen. I watched Kamala yesterday and wondered how 75 million people could have voted for her to lead this country. It has to be loyalty to a party to the point of outweighing pure common sense. Well, thank goodness a Kamala Harris administration didn't come to pass. Too bad all the damage Biden and his crowd caused to this country can't be thrown out along with them.
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OK. Good talk.
 
PandemicBlue said:
The Democratic Party has turned into a clown show. I would love to see the meltdown if a Trump administration brought cases against a Democratic presidential candidate based on nothing more or less than the cases brought against Trump.....perfectly timed with the announcement of his re-election campaign by the way. The outrage then would be off the charts by the same people who drooled for a conviction....any conviction on any of the charges Trump faced.

Well it's too late. The voters saw through your BS and kicked out the worst administration I have ever seen. I watched Kamala yesterday and wondered how 75 million people could have voted for her to lead this country. It has to be loyalty to a party to the point of outweighing pure common sense. Well, thank goodness a Kamala Harris administration didn't come to pass. Too bad all the damage Biden and his crowd caused to this country can't be thrown out along with them.
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Question for Ramrouser, with your decades of legal experience. How does a random woman from New York, by filing a civil lawsuit against Citizen Trump, cause the entire justice system to be politically "weaponized"? At what point do we as lawyers stop trusting the integrity of the judicial system? I don't think such a point exists, so I'm hoping you can help us understand when you concluded the judicial system was hopelessly biased against Trump. TIA!


A federal appeals court upheld the jury’s verdict finding Donald Trump sexually abused writer E. Jean Carroll and denied his request for a new trial.

Trump challenged the $5 million civil verdict alleging the trial judge made numerous errors, including allowing testimony of two other women who claimed Trump sexually assaulted them.

The appeals court concluded the trial judge didn’t abuse his discretion in ruling on evidence. Even if he made any errors, they said, given the strength of Carroll’s case, they are not persuaded Trump’s rights were affected to warrant a new trial.

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Steven Cheung – Trump’s top spokesman and incoming White House communications director – said more appeals are coming.

“The American People have re-elected President Trump with an overwhelming mandate, and they demand an immediate end to the political weaponization of our justice system and a swift dismissal of all of the Witch Hunts, including the Democrat-funded Carroll Hoax, which will continue to be appealed. We look forward to uniting our country in the new administration as President Trump makes America great again,” Cheung said.
 
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