Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

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Mulberry Heel said:
Not really. As it turns out, when all of the votes are counted Trump is going to end up with less than 50% of the national popular vote. So not a majority.
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And of course-as usual-like 65% of the eligible voters voted So -as usual-the president will win with a little over a third of the eligible voters voting for him
 
superrific said:
You are right that military experience is not per se required. But all of those people you mentioned had deep experience within the defense department and/or intelligence agencies. Panetta was CIA director, had been in the House, WH chief of staff, OMB -- Panetta knew his shit. This assclown is no more qualified for the role than me. Actually, probably less qualified, since I can get a security clearance and he cannot.

There's no "relative lack." It is a complete and utter lack of any relevant experience whatsoever. He's never run anything. He has no demonstrated skills in the work that a Sec Def has to do. Imagine this assclown trying to manage an $800+ budget. Oh my God.
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He might do OK with $800.

Emphasis on MIGHT.
 
Callatoroy said:
She is on the scale of the gaetz pick but for different reasons. This job is one of the most important to me and requires the brightest minds in the country. Especially with trump as potus.
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“Especially with trump as potus.”

That’s telling.
 
OGtruthhurts said:
Getting worked up over nothing. Trump will throw his pigs some slop just like he originally did with the wall....then he will go golfing
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Project 2025 exists for a reason.

In 2016, right-wing Republicans thought Trump would be this great businessman taking over government and cutting waste and inefficiency. They soon realized he’s a buffoon.

Project 2025 exists because Trump is a buffoon. Musk, Thiel, and others will see to Project 2025’s execution.
 
Callatoroy said:
However, if he does try to get them all through recess appointments I will condemn that.
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Who the fuck cares if you condemn that? I mean, look at you. "Oh, if he dismantles all the guard rails and takes full power for himself, I'll say that's bad." The time for saying that's bad was years ago.

You MAGA are like the people who declined the vaccine, got Covid, and then asked for the vaccine as they were being intubated in the ICU. Yeah, it's too fucking late for that now.
 
MOUNTAINH33L said:
Sorry my TDS was acting up.
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Some of these appointments are because Trump knows (or thinks) they'll be blindly loyal and do whatever he tells them to do, but I suspect that behind that is some typical Trumper trolling. "Who can I pick who will get liberals all upset and make them mad? Gaetz as AG? So be it!" Given that a huge part of Trumpism is trolling the libs, decisions like this certainly fit the bill. And yes he's a god-awful pick and will likely be a disaster, as will some of these other loons/criminals (or should be criminals, like Gaetz) that he's choosing.
 
My guess is Trump has another AG in mind, and is using Gaetz to gauge how in lock-step Republicans in the Senate are going to be with him. Gaetz probably won't have enough votes to get confirmed, and Trump realizes that, so he's got his true #1 option waiting to be recess appointed after Gaetz is shot down. Maybe Aileen Cannon? Or maybe he saves her for the Supreme Court. I dunno. But this acting AG will have two missions: Dismantle the federal investigations against Trump and punish Trump's enemies.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
My guess is Trump has another AG in mind, and is using Gaetz to gauge how in lock-step Republicans in the Senate are going to be with him. Gaetz probably won't have enough votes to get confirmed, and Trump realizes that, so he's got his true #1 option waiting to be recess appointed after Gaetz is shot down. Maybe Aileen Cannon? Or maybe he saves her for the Supreme Court. I dunno. But this acting AG will have two missions: Dismantle the federal investigations against Trump and punish Trump's enemies.
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Seems likely And by denying Gaetz-he thinks-maybe correctly-that he will be granted the next choice. But it will be fun to see him fight with his own party
 


MAGA lining up to use the Gaetz nomination as a litmus test for elected officials. But threatening to primary of a Senator with a statewide election and 6-year term is not as effective a tactic as it is in the House.

Which doesn’t mean that Thune and the GOP won’t fall in line anyway. Many of the GOP Senators are eager to demonstrate their Trump fealty.

As an aside, that’s not a target-rich environment for Dems hoping to flip seats in ‘26 (to have a shot at retaking a majority in ‘28).
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Having relatively Junior military service or no military service at all for Secretary of defense isn't really that unusual. Obama had two or three that capped out at Lts or no military service. I think Trump had one or two the first time with no military service.

It is a civilian office meant as one check to ensure civilian control of the military.

I'd be much more concerned with his relative lack of running a large organization or his denial of being allowed to provide security for Obama's inaugural due to alleged right wing links than his lack of high rank.
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That's all fair, and when writing my post I was mainly thinking of responding to those who have cited Hegseth's military service as proof of his qualifications. You are right that the bigger issue is that he has never been responsible for overseeing anything close to the type of organization he's now being put in charge of.
 
Callatoroy said:
It takes more than that to be a tyrant. However, if he does try to get them all through recess appointments I will condemn that. I believe in the senate confirmation process. I can tell you right now that I have zero support for gaetz and i hope he isn't confirmed. I'm not all thrilled about gabbard in that role either. Only from an experience and knowledge pov. Otherwise I have no issues with her.

And if he doesn't resort to recess appointments for his picks will you admit he isn't a tyrant?
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Well to be clear Trump has already publicly demanded that his nominated officials be installed via recess appointments - the question now is whether Congress will acquiesce (or whether Trump will try to force them in some other way). So just like with J6, Trump failing to get them in as recess appointments won't be because he's not an authoritarian at heart, it will just mean he was unable to succeed in his most authoritarian impulses.
 
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