Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

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superrific said:
Mandates don't matter. Bush claimed a mandate after 2000 and proceeded to govern like he won in a landslide.

Mandates only matter as predictors. Supposedly they tell the party that won whether they can go fast or slow and still retain support. But Trump doesn't care about that.
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Trump doesn’t, but the GOP still has to try to win elections in 2026, 2028, and beyond.
 
mpaer said:
I wonder how many Biological Males that transitioned played HS Womens sports?? The number
And how many of them were built like Lawrence Taylor
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IMO, this issue for social conservatives has little or nothing to do with transgenders in sports. That's just the excuse. The real issue for them is that transgenders (and non-binary people) exist, period. They want these people to disappear from public life - not seen in movies or television or social media, not to be discussed or referred to at all in schools, and even denied the ability to have gender-affirming surgery and post-surgery care and medications. In Florida under DeSantis the state did just that, even for adults. The clear goal was to force transgender adults to simply leave the state. My guess is that this is eventually what we're going to see Republicans try to do at the national level in the next year or two, especially since they control all three branches of the federal government.

Link: Transgender adults in Florida are blindsided that a new law also limits their access to health care
 
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OGtruthhurts said:
Both parties are fraught with scandal and corruption get off your high horses
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Acting as though both parties are even in the same universe now is intellectually dishonest to the extreme. We are about to have a governing cabinet that contains minimum 2 rapists and 3 others credible accused of sexual assault.

There is nothing comparable.
 
ronjon said:
Gaetz as AG is letting the fox in to the chicken coop. Wonder if this one has trouble, he’s not that popular with the Rs.
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I don't disagree, but I want to see what, if anything, is brought to light with Trump's appointments.
 
superrific said:
Mandates don't matter. Bush claimed a mandate after 2000 and proceeded to govern like he won in a landslide.

Mandates only matter as predictors. Supposedly they tell the party that won whether they can go fast or slow and still retain support. But Trump doesn't care about that.
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It won’t matter to Trump but democrats should keep saying it because 1) it’s true and 2) the public hears it.
 
UNCBAdookJD said:
Cleaner ingredients isn't controversial per se, it's just the last time we tried it, you all pretty much rioted.
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Might be true but that’s before my time, so it wasn’t me that was rioting about it. I support anyone who tries to help the chronic disease epidemic in America. It’s one of the most worthy causes government could take, IMO.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Might be true but that’s before my time, so it wasn’t me that was rioting about it. I support anyone who tries to help the chronic disease epidemic in America. It’s one of the most worthy causes government could take, IMO.
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Thee Obama admin is before your time? lol

You cannot seriously pretend like you don't know that Republicans have traditionally been very hostile to the government seeking to impose better health outcomes on Americans by banning or more tightly regulating the things that contribute to our negative health outcomes - processed foods, sugary foods and drinks, smoking, alcohol, etc. Hell, it isn't even remotely coherent with the Musk/Ramaswamy wing of Trump's coalition that claims to support aggressively reducing government regulation. Which side of the political aisle do you really think the large corporate food manufacturers in our country have been aligned with?

Anyway I truly hope RFK and Trump try to get a bunch of unhealthy processed foods off of our shelves. It's a win-win. It will be good for health outcomes, and the public will absolutely hate it. Unfortunately, what is more likely to happen is that RFK will go after niche food additives that don't appear to cause any harm to anyone, and claim to be making us all healthier while ignoring the larger issues (most centrally, as a country we buy and eat too many calorie-dense, nutrient-light foods and don't exercise enough).
 
rodoheel said:
Thee Obama admin is before your time? lol

You cannot seriously pretend like you don't know that Republicans have traditionally been very hostile to the government seeking to impose better health outcomes on Americans by banning or more tightly regulating the things that contribute to our negative health outcomes - processed foods, sugary foods and drinks, smoking, alcohol, etc. Hell, it isn't even remotely coherent with the Musk/Ramaswamy wing of Trump's coalition that claims to support aggressively reducing government regulation. Which side of the political aisle do you really think the large corporate food manufacturers in our country have been aligned with?

Anyway I truly hope RFK and Trump try to get a bunch of unhealthy processed foods off of our shelves. It's a win-win. It will be good for health outcomes, and the public will absolutely hate it. Unfortunately, what is more likely to happen is that RFK will go after niche food additives that don't appear to cause any harm to anyone, and claim to be making us all healthier while ignoring the larger issues (most centrally, as a country we buy and eat too many calorie-dense, nutrient-light foods and don't exercise enough).
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Yes, Obama was elected for the first time when I was 18 years old and I didn’t follow politics half as close as I do now. I gave exactly zero thought to whatever Michelle Obama said about healthy school lunches.

Agree that getting the unhealthy processed foods off the shelves, or at least cleaned up incrementally with less dyes etc, would be a win for all.

Obviously the answer to what will make America healthier is *both* diet and exercise. No argument from me that exercise is a big component too. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t serious opportunity to improve the ingredients we allow in our foods.
 
It would be nice to considerably tamp down on civilian access to Assault weapons-or just bullets
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Yes, Obama was elected for the first time when I was 18 years old and I didn’t follow politics half as close as I do now. I gave exactly zero thought to whatever Michelle Obama said about healthy school lunches.

Agree that getting the unhealthy processed foods off the shelves, or at least cleaned up incrementally with less dyes etc, would be a win for all.

Obviously the answer to what will make America healthier is *both* diet and exercise. No argument from me that exercise is a big component too. But that doesn’t mean there isn’t serious opportunity to improve the ingredients we allow in our foods.
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To catch you up - Michelle Obama led a campaign for healthier school lunches and the Right was very opposed!

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I must have missed the issue with artificial food coloring, is that a major issue? I’ve long viewed the biggest issue with processed grocery store food to be the amount of sugar/corn syrup. Fast food products no doubt have factors beyon that,
 
UNCBAdookJD said:
Cleaner ingredients isn't controversial per se, it's just the last time we tried it, you all pretty much rioted.
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It is controversial, because there is no definition of "Cleaner". Just like there are no "Super" foods and "Detoxing" is not a thing.

Just like there's no definition of "organic" which has morphed into nothing more than marketing.

And don't get me started on all of the fake protective agencies, like the Non-GMO project that labeled salt as GMO free. Or the Dolphin safe tuna whose primary methodology for safety is to ask the captain if he caught a dolphin and threw it back.

I completely agree that the food industry needs to improve. Little things like not letting the sugar industry lobby the FDA to double the recommended daily intake of sugar, which was already too high.

There are things that can be done to improve the average person's food intake, which should reasonable translate into a healthier population and less medical cost. But those are not going to happen with an idiot like the orange dictator and his piss boy RFK in charge.
 
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