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uncjhodges said:
1. I was counting RFK in charge of HHS
2. CMS guides a shit ton of what we do in primary care

eta- shuddering who is going to Surgeon General
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I think Oz should be reassuring. This tells me (and I could be wrong) that Trump has no real intention of touching health policy. Rather, it's Trump eating Project 2025's faces.

Remember: Trump didn't exactly ask for Project 2025. That was a Christmas tree that Heritage packaged together with its efforts to screen out all potentially disloyal staffers. And this is Trump saying, "thank you for your employment agency services. BTW I don't give a fuck about your policies. All I want is power."
 
Well, his second term cabinet is shaping up to be just as awful as I had expected. I do wonder how many of these clowns will still be holding their new positions two years from now, or maybe even a year from now. It seems clear to me that Medicare and Medicaid are indeed in great danger, despite all of the Trump claims otherwise, and Social Security is likely facing some serious changes as well, changes that will almost certainly not benefit those who actually need it. I can't wait for Trump's announcement of the new Secretary of Education, I'm guessing it will either be Chris Rufo <shudder> or maybe even that loon who's running Oklahoma's public schools into the ground right now.
 
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Mulberry Heel said:
Well, his second term cabinet is shaping up to be just as awful as I had expected. I do wonder how many of these clowns will still be holding their new positions two years from now, or maybe even a year from now. It seems clear to me that Medicare and Medicaid are indeed in great danger, despite all of the Trump claims otherwise, and Social Security is likely facing some serious changes as well, changes that will almost certainly not benefit those who actually need it. I can't wait for Trump's announcement of the new Secretary of Education, I'm guessing it will either be Chris Rufo <shudder> or maybe even that loon who's running Oklahoma's public schools into the ground right now.
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heathercoxrichardson.substack.com

November 18, 2024

On Friday, Secretary of Commerce Gina Raimondo locked in a $6.6 billion deal with the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company for it to invest $65 billion in three state-of-the-art fabrication plants in Arizona.
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Although Trump ran on lowering the cost of consumer goods, Trump and his sidekick Elon Musk, along with pharmaceutical entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, have vowed to slash the U.S. government, apparently taking their cue from Argentina’s self-described anarcho-capitalist president Javier Milei, who was the first foreign leader to visit Trump after the election. Milei’s “shock therapy” to his country threw the nation into a deep recession, just as Musk says his plans will create “hardship” for Americans before enabling the country to rebuild with security.

Ramaswamy today posted on social media, “A reasonable formula to fix the U.S. government: Milei-style cuts, on steroids.” He has suggested that cuts are easier than people think. The Washington Post’sPhilip Bump noted that on a podcast in September, Ramaswamy said as an example: “If your Social Security number ends in an odd number, you’re out. If it ends in an even number, you’re in. There’s a 50 percent cut right there. Of those who remain, if your Social Security number starts in an even number, you’re in, and if it starts with an odd number, you’re out. Boom. That’s a 75 percent reduction done.”

But, as Bump notes, this reveals Ramaswamy’s lack of understanding of how the government actually works. Social Security numbers aren’t random; the first digit refers to where the number was obtained. So this seemingly random system would target certain areas of the country.
 
DiehardHeelFan said:
heathercoxrichardson.substack.com

November 18, 2024

On Friday, Secretary of Commerce Gina Raimondo locked in a $6.6 billion deal with the Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company for it to invest $65 billion in three state-of-the-art fabrication plants in Arizona.
heathercoxrichardson.substack.com heathercoxrichardson.substack.com

Although Trump ran on lowering the cost of consumer goods, Trump and his sidekick Elon Musk, along with pharmaceutical entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy, have vowed to slash the U.S. government, apparently taking their cue from Argentina’s self-described anarcho-capitalist president Javier Milei, who was the first foreign leader to visit Trump after the election. Milei’s “shock therapy” to his country threw the nation into a deep recession, just as Musk says his plans will create “hardship” for Americans before enabling the country to rebuild with security.

Ramaswamy today posted on social media, “A reasonable formula to fix the U.S. government: Milei-style cuts, on steroids.” He has suggested that cuts are easier than people think. The Washington Post’sPhilip Bump noted that on a podcast in September, Ramaswamy said as an example: “If your Social Security number ends in an odd number, you’re out. If it ends in an even number, you’re in. There’s a 50 percent cut right there. Of those who remain, if your Social Security number starts in an even number, you’re in, and if it starts with an odd number, you’re out. Boom. That’s a 75 percent reduction done.”

But, as Bump notes, this reveals Ramaswamy’s lack of understanding of how the government actually works. Social Security numbers aren’t random; the first digit refers to where the number was obtained. So this seemingly random system would target certain areas of the country.
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Why not just cut it for everyone instead of 75% of the people? Fucking clown show.
 
DiehardHeelFan said:
Ramaswamy said as an example: “If your Social Security number ends in an odd number, you’re out. If it ends in an even number, you’re in. There’s a 50 percent cut right there. Of those who remain, if your Social Security number starts in an even number, you’re in, and if it starts with an odd number, you’re out. Boom. That’s a 75 percent reduction done.”
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This is exactly the kind of big brain problem solving I expect from the second Trump administration.

Also, I suspect Vivek's SSN starts and ends with an even number.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
it makes me hope the Democrats will at least give some consideration to no longer dying on certain hills that are so absurd, like men playing in women’s sports, illegal immigrants being good because they perform our tough labor, etc.
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Making this statement shows that you really don't understand the democrats position on these topics.

First, we never choose to focus on trans women playing sports, see you didn't even say it correctly as they are not men. The right bastardized the conversation which is purely about being treated fairly. Being able to lead their own lives. Being able to talk with doctors and therapist and make their own decisions. Not being discriminated against for who they are.

But the right, and you based on this post, never seemed to get the equal rights part, you just wanted to protect the thousands of female athletes from the .0001% of trans women that might want the benefits of playing sports. You know like teamwork, friendships, exercise (didn't you recently say we all need to exercise more). The right completely blew it out of proportion, why? Because they really really hate trans people and would prefer to kill them all, but it doesn't fit their lies about being pro-life so they cannot say their true feelings. So they derail the conversation about equal rights to make a fuss over something that is a statistical outlier.

Now immigrants. Another lie you bought into from trump. Guess what, 99.9% of the immigrants want to be here to work and to have an opportunity at a better life. They are not murders, drug mules, mentally ill, criminals, like trump claimed. He claimed that 100% of them were bad. This is a complete lie. The data I've read shows that they actually commit criminal crimes at a lower rate than natural born citizens.

Their willingness to work is a good thing. Do you believe it is not true?

Plus, unless you are Native American you are a descendent of immigrants. Funny how the vast majority forget that. I guess it's ok if you are descendent from good countries, like trump said. You know, white countries.

He also lied about the position of democrats. No one was ever in favor of just opening the border and letting anyone enter. What we are in favor of is an actual policy. Policies that expedite the process. Policies that allow immigrants to work and provide for their families. Policies that don't take a damn thing from American citizens.

Additionally, the focus on the border for immigrants was always a lie from trump because that isn't how the majority of undocumented immigrants arrive in this country.

So, why the fuck would we give any consideration to changing our positions, when the maga crowd doesn't begin to understand our position and accepts the lies of the Führer as absolute truth?
 
dukeman92 said:
Starting to see some of his strategy. Appoint people who are extremely loyal (duh) but also TV personalities who've been in front of the camera and built a rapport with the simpletons who believe everything they see on TV.
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Well, it has to be true if it's on tv.
 
nycfan said:
The one thing I’ve seen Kennedy propose that I would be all for is ending pharmaceutical ads on tv and radio. It is probably too late since so many people get their news and infotainment online anyway, but I always thought it was a mistake when the Clinton Administration permitted pharma ads back in the 1990s.

OTOH, that would almost immediately starve cable tv of a key source of ad revenue.

But that is not at all worth having Kennedy having any say over US health policy.
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Do you think there is any chance the Supreme Court would uphold such a restriction in this day and age? I mean the chances are better if it comes from a republican administration, but I don’t see five votes for that.
 
Calheel said:
Do you think there is any chance the Supreme Court would uphold such a restriction in this day and age? I mean the chances are better if it comes from a republican administration, but I don’t see five votes for that.
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There is not, for two reasons:

1. The 2007 Amendments to the FDA Act specifically provided for pharma ads. It's going to be hard for a regulator to argue that they should be eliminated or restricted, given that there is a statute that addresses the issue.

See this rulemaking from last year


2. As a constitutional matter, there are not five votes for any restrictions on pharma ads. There might not even be three. This majority is ride-or-die on content neutrality and it's going to hurt us badly eventually.
 
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