Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

[Mulberry Heel]

Chief Architect of Project 2025

Contrary to the repeated claims of board Trumpers, I'm increasingly convinced that Trump 2.0 really is going to be every bit the disaster and shit show that many expected it would be. His placing one of the main architects of Project 2025 to be in charge of our national budget shows what's coming. By the time this clown show screws everything up Trumpers will likely have vanished from social media.

 

[Mulberry Heel]

Oh and you know by the 2030 census the states Kamala carried will lose 12-15 electoral votes to southern,, red states! WINNING!

All of which has nothing to do with winning the culture wars. But you just keep prattling on. It's really a shame that Trumper posters are nearly always nonserious trolls. Fits the cult, I guess.

 

[Ramrouser]

Oh yeah, you definitely seem very happy!! Totally. I definitely believe you. You've got me totally convinced that you're so happy since you wrote it on the internet. You definitely aren't feeling some sort of weird bizarre insecurity where you're needing to convince all of us that you are so happy and we are so miserable.dm
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You know what makes me very happy? You've been practicing law for a lot longer than I've been alive, which means that Good Lord willing, I'm going to be here for a whooooooole hell of a lot longer than you are, and I have all of the confidence in the world that our great country has a fantastic future ahead of us, especially once folks like you are eating pudding and slurping ice chips in your nursing home!

Like your beloved Pres Biden. What’s your story? My guess you’re either bitter divorced guy or never married guy that’s bitter women don’t like him. I’’\ll
DM you photos of my family if you need further proof of my family.

 

[CFordUNC]

Bet you an immigration bill gets passed, that the pace of deportations slows down after a short period of time, and they will find a way to document people to avoid a labor shortage.

My hope as it pertains to immigration is that the administration will deport the folks who are already slated for deportation and call it a win, and will then expend significant resources beefing up border patrol personnel, technological means of securing the border, and more immigration/asylum/work visa processing personnel. I won't agree with any needlessly cruel or inhumane methods, and I won't appreciate any performative political theater, but if Trump 2.0 figures out a way to solve (or make a lot of progress toward solving) our immigration issues, I'll happily tip my cap. It's obviously well-documented how much I don't approve of Trump as a person or as a leader, but as I keep saying, I am sincerely hoping that some good comes out of his second administration. I'm going to choose to look on the bright side until or unless given reason otherwise.

 

[CFordUNC]

Like your beloved Pres Biden. What’s your story? My guess you’re either bitter divorced guy or never married guy that’s bitter women don’t like him. I’’\ll
DM you photos of my family if you need further proof of my family.

Ok, this is getting really bizarre. You're making it really, really strange. Please for the love of all that is holy do not DM me any pictures of anything...your family or otherwise. That's.....creepy. I think we should probably end this exchange and get you off to bed before you say anything weirder than you already have!

 

[Mulberry Heel]

Ok, this is getting really bizarre. You're making it really, really strange. Please for the love of all that is holy do not DM me any pictures of anything...your family or otherwise. That's.....creepy. I think we should probably end this exchange and get you off to bed before you say anything weirder than you already have!

Trumpers really are weirdos. It's a shame that the Harris campaign just stopped using that phrase after a few weeks, because it was so accurate and really was getting under their skin.

 

[Ramrouser]

You looked me up so there’s that Goodnight.

 

[nycfan]

let’s return this thread to its original programming about the incoming administration cabinet and related administration building.

Thanks!

 

[nycfan]

Bet you an immigration bill gets passed, that the pace of deportations slows down after a short period of time, and they will find a way to document people to avoid a labor shortage.

I hope overall that you are correct and this all turns out to be more performative shock and awe deportation of low-hanging fruit (actual criminals) than a genuine plan to actually build internment camps etc.

 

[Callatoroy]

My hope as it pertains to immigration is that the administration will deport the folks who are already slated for deportation and call it a win, and will then expend significant resources beefing up border patrol personnel, technological means of securing the border, and more immigration/asylum/work visa processing personnel. I won't agree with any needlessly cruel or inhumane methods, and I won't appreciate any performative political theater, but if Trump 2.0 figures out a way to solve (or make a lot of progress toward solving) our immigration issues, I'll happily tip my cap. It's obviously well-documented how much I don't approve of Trump as a person or as a leader, but as I keep saying, I am sincerely hoping that some good comes out of his second administration. I'm going to choose to look on the bright side until or unless given reason otherwise.

Oh there will be some human pain and this board will go insane with "separating kids from families" and "putting kids in cages" and trying to undo all the bad the biden administration caused. One of the absolute worst is the turning a blind eye to the devastation and horror imparted on kids due to cartels while this board pretended all along that there is no crisis at the border and the right is just making shit up and its all good. Several went as far as to say the right was blowing the issue way out of proportion and nobody cares about the border except maga because they are racist. Of course they will be the very first hypocrites to scream when the left's media, who has misled them every step of the way, tries to portray trump as evil for cleaning up the mess. All of a sudden, the plight of immigrant kids will zoom to the top of their hypocritical, faux moral outrage, list of trump failures.

 

[JCTarheel82]

Some strong Jerry Falwell vibes ITT.

 

[superrific]

When I look at this guy, three words pop into mind. Banality of evil.

Not saying he's Eichmann, just that he gives off this workmanlike vibe -- like he schlumps every morning to the office, slashes some people's health insurance, eats his roast beef sandwich for lunch, goes to some meetings with Russian oligarchs and then back home for meatloaf and potatoes.

 

[ChileG]

Smaller Federal Government through massive DOGE cuts;
This includes substantially reduced federal workforce due to imposition of mandatory 5 day in person workforce attendance;
Reduced spending;
Lower energy costs due to greater energy production;
TARGETED tariffs to booster American manufacturing; leads to
Lower interest rates.

That’s a start. Sit back a watch it happen.

Interest rates rose the day after the election as the bond market reacted to Trump’s stated policies.
So, 0 for 1 so far.

 

[BlooVooDoo]

Bet you an immigration bill gets passed, that the pace of deportations slows down after a short period of time, and they will find a way to document people to avoid a labor shortage.

It could be difficult to get an immigration bill passed, even with Republican control of congress given the drama over the last attempt. MAGA voters want Trump to deliver on his promise to deport millions and the majorities are very slim. I could see a handful of senators and representatives balking because a bill doesn’t go far enough and some balking because it goes too far.

 

[BlooVooDoo]

I hope overall that you are correct and this all turns out to be more performative shock and awe deportation of low-hanging fruit (actual criminals) than a genuine plan to actually build internment camps etc.

If we’re going to move in a forward direction in the next decade we need this to hurt the people who voted for it.

Bring on the camps. Bring on the tariffs. Bring on the end of the Department of Education.

 

[finesse]

Oh there will be some human pain and this board will go insane with "separating kids from families" and "putting kids in cages" and trying to undo all the bad the biden administration caused. One of the absolute worst is the turning a blind eye to the devastation and horror imparted on kids due to cartels while this board pretended all along that there is no crisis at the border and the right is just making shit up and its all good. Several went as far as to say the right was blowing the issue way out of proportion and nobody cares about the border except maga because they are racist. Of course they will be the very first hypocrites to scream when the left's media, who has misled them every step of the way, tries to portray trump as evil for cleaning up the mess. All of a sudden, the plight of immigrant kids will zoom to the top of their hypocritical, faux moral outrage, list of trump failures.

Oh, that's all true and you're either foolish or fiendish.

 

[lawtig02]

Oh there will be some human pain and this board will go insane with "separating kids from families" and "putting kids in cages" and trying to undo all the bad the biden administration caused. One of the absolute worst is the turning a blind eye to the devastation and horror imparted on kids due to cartels while this board pretended all along that there is no crisis at the border and the right is just making shit up and its all good. Several went as far as to say the right was blowing the issue way out of proportion and nobody cares about the border except maga because they are racist. Of course they will be the very first hypocrites to scream when the left's media, who has misled them every step of the way, tries to portray trump as evil for cleaning up the mess. All of a sudden, the plight of immigrant kids will zoom to the top of their hypocritical, faux moral outrage, list of trump failures.

Could you help us understand how sending immigrant kids back to Mexico better protects them from the cartels that control large parts of Mexico? Thanks in advance.

 

[finesse]

Hell, I'd like to see him put some real numbers like crime rates, numbers of illegals and the rest of what constitutes this crisis at the border. It sounds more like a tempest in a teacup when you look at the numbers that I can find.

 

[mpaer]

Hell, I'd like to see him put some real numbers like crime rates, numbers of illegals and the rest of what constitutes this crisis at the border. It sounds more like a tempest in a teacup when you look at the numbers that I can find.

Yea
But we won't-just scary made up crap

 

[nycfan]

Gift Link —> Opinion | Don’t Do Trump’s Work for Him on Mass Deportations

Don’t Do Trump’s Work for Him on Mass Deportations​

“… Understand, first of all, that no change is needed to U.S. law to start the deportation process for every unauthorized immigrant in the United States. Being in the country without proper immigration status is a civil violation, and deportation is considered the civil penalty for it. Just as he did during his first term, Mr. Trump will almost certainly issue guidance to Immigration and Customs Enforcement that every unauthorized immigrant is fair game for arrest, and that deportable immigrants who happen to get caught up by ICE, even if agents aren’t specifically looking for that person, could also be detained.

ICE agents already have authority to conduct enforcement in residential and commercial areas; the reason they usually haven’t (even under Mr. Trump) is because those raids take a lot of planning for the frequently low numbers of people they actually nab. It requires far less effort to simply pick up immigrants from local jails, which is why ICE tends to prefer working with local law enforcement. Since some local police are more willing to cooperate than others, this makes deportation risk a matter of geography.

But the arrest of immigrants isn’t the same as their removal.

For most immigrants — those who haven’t been apprehended shortly after their arrival — deportation isn’t a quick process. It generally entails the right to a hearing before an immigration judge, to prove that the immigrants lack legal status and that they can’t apply for relief (such as asylum). In the meantime, they’re either released on supervision or held in immigration detention.

… In fiscal year 2024, Congress gave ICE the money for 41,500 detention beds. This is insufficient for anything that would constitute mass deportation. Extra holding facilities can be spun up as needed, but not immediately — and at higher cost (because of, say, noncompetitive contractor bids) than building a detention facility the usual way.

Immigration courts are famously backlogged, not least because that’s where asylum-seekers end up to present their cases. …

As of the end of September, 3.7 million people were waiting for their claims to be resolved. This includes an overwhelming majority of the recent border crossers whose arrival under President Biden so incensed Mr. Trump and his allies. They can try to rush their court cases through faster (though they’ll need people, meaning money, to do it), but there’s not much juice to squeeze in rounding up people who are already, legally speaking, in deportation proceedings. …”