Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

[Ramrouser]

1. Lots of people on the left are worried about that. Did you pay attention? Oh, right, that's not what you do.
2. He repeated the Nazi salute. It was not a spasm. He did it twice for emphasis, and he's laughing that he's got idiots like you carrying water for him. That's likely why he did it. You fools are sport to him.

Funny how the largest, international antisemitism organization on the planet agrees with me. Is the ADL "stupid" or are they "fools" carrying water for Elon as well?

My observation is that many on the left get more exercised by individuals making an "OK" sign with their hands or waiving their arms above their head by people they disagree with than actual anti-semites (leftists) on college campuses shouting "Internationalize intifada" or "from the River to the Sea" in Jewish students' faces.

 

[finesse]

The United States is not a predator. JFC.

Tell that to the Sioux.

 

[Kingpin]

In other words, every swing state Dem.

Well 2 were from Ga where the high profile murder took place.

 

[BlooVooDoo]

Funny how the largest, international antisemitism organization on the planet agrees with me. Is the ADL "stupid" or are they "fools" carrying water for Elon as well?

My observation is that many on the left get more exercised by individuals making an "OK" sign with their hands or waiving their arms above their head by people they disagree with than actual anti-semites (leftists) on college campuses shouting "Internationalize intifada" or "from the River to the Sea" in Jewish students' faces.

The ADL has done good work in the past, great work even, but make no mistake, it is focused primarily on advancing the causes of Israel. It’s essentially a foreign government lobbying firm.

 

[nycfan]

Senators receive affidavit containing new allegations against Pete Hegseth, who denies the claims

The former sister-in-law of Trump’s defense secretary pick said that Hegseth made his second wife fear for her safety. Hegseth’s second wife said, “There was no physical abuse in my marriage.”

www.nbcnews.com

Senators receive affidavit containing new allegations against Pete Hegseth, who denies the claims​

The former sister-in-law of Trump’s defense secretary pick said that Hegseth made his second wife fear for her safety. Hegseth’s second wife said, “There was no physical abuse in my marriage.”

 

[StrangePackage]

 

[BlooVooDoo]

Senators receive affidavit containing new allegations against Pete Hegseth, who denies the claims

The former sister-in-law of Trump’s defense secretary pick said that Hegseth made his second wife fear for her safety. Hegseth’s second wife said, “There was no physical abuse in my marriage.”

www.nbcnews.com

Senators receive affidavit containing new allegations against Pete Hegseth, who denies the claims​

The former sister-in-law of Trump’s defense secretary pick said that Hegseth made his second wife fear for her safety. Hegseth’s second wife said, “There was no physical abuse in my marriage.”

This ship has sailed.

 

[Callatoroy]

Whatever form it takes, I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the next four years will see a MASSIVE expansion of executive power at the expense of the legislature, the courts and the states. I still can’t figure out how so many people who think of themselves as small government advocates have been deluded into supporting this movement. I don’t think it’s a stretch at all to say that Democrats are more conservative than 2025’s version of MAGA.

Then you don't know what the definition of political conservative is.

 

[1moretimeagain]

Funny how the largest, international antisemitism organization on the planet agrees with me. Is the ADL "stupid" or are they "fools" carrying water for Elon as well?

My observation is that many on the left get more exercised by individuals making an "OK" sign with their hands or waiving their arms above their head by people they disagree with than actual anti-semites (leftists) on college campuses shouting "Internationalize intifada" or "from the River to the Sea" in Jewish students' faces.

Musk has previously threatened ADL with a $4 billion lawsuit.

 

[Calheel]

Well 2 were from Ga where the high profile murder took place.

Yeah, sometimes you need to make a political vote, even when it is a dumb law. If you vote everything on principle, you won't be voting after the next election.

 

[Calheel]

The ADL has done good work in the past, great work even, but make no mistake, it is focused primarily on advancing the causes of Israel. It’s essentially a foreign government lobbying firm.

Are you sure you are not confusing it with AIPAC?

 

[gtyellowjacket]

Not bad. Certainly worse Republicans than Rubio out there.

 

[rodoheel]

I have been saying this all along. It is an administrative nightmare and might be an impossibility.

Maybe for a while you could prove parent’s citizenship status by their birth certificate (if available) and the fact that they were born before 1/20/2025 but in the distant future one would have to produce birth certificates going back to relatives born before 2025.

Classic Republican policy proposal - do something mean and cruel and deceptively simple that would require a massive administrative effort just to begin to administer. Sort of like idiotic "drug test people on welfare" proposals but way more work and also blatantly unconstitutional just for fun.

 

[rodoheel]

Then you don't know what the definition of political conservative is.

What do you think is politically conservative? Do you think it includes expanding the scope of the government's intrusion into your personal life while also significantly expanding the amount of government administrative effort required to accomplish that intrusion, as the EO on birthright citizenship does? That certainly doesn't sound like what modern American conservatism claims to be.

ETA: though if what you mean is that political conservatism has historically been founded in belief in a strong, often unelected executive (like a king) who exercises absolute power, then I suppose you have a point.

 

[finesse]

Not bad. Certainly worse Republicans than Rubio out there.

Damned by faint praise.

 

[altmin]

Whatever form it takes, I have absolutely no doubt whatsoever that the next four years will see a MASSIVE expansion of executive power at the expense of the legislature, the courts and the states. I still can’t figure out how so many people who think of themselves as small government advocates have been deluded into supporting this movement. I don’t think it’s a stretch at all to say that Democrats are more conservative than 2025’s version of MAGA.

a government of 1 person is pretty small.

 

[superrific]

I have been saying this all along. It is an administrative nightmare and might be an impossibility.

Good thing it is plainly illegal. I would expect it to be enjoined before the end of the week (temporary) and it will never become un-enjoined.

Interesting question about district court nationwide injunctions is presented. Everyone has been critical of the district court injunctions coming out of Texas, and the Supreme Court is even hearing a case about whether district courts have the power to enter nationwide injunctions. Most of the time, the nationwide injunction is an abuse.

But how does a court *not* issue a nationwide injunction in a case like this? How can the plaintiff states receive relief? The administration has to issue birth certificates to anyone born in New York but not Texas? There is an obvious need for uniformity in this area of law, and thus this would seem to be a quintessential case where nationwide injunctions are called for.

It's really hard to have nice things in a country when one half of it takes every nice thing and treats it like a bottle in a bar fight.

 

[superrific]

Funny how the largest, international antisemitism organization on the planet agrees with me. Is the ADL "stupid" or are they "fools" carrying water for Elon as well?

My observation is that many on the left get more exercised by individuals making an "OK" sign with their hands or waiving their arms above their head by people they disagree with than actual anti-semites (leftists) on college campuses shouting "Internationalize intifada" or "from the River to the Sea" in Jewish students' faces.

OK, first, 90% of the actual anti-semites in this country are right wingers. You cynically appropriated the protests in order to make yourselves look like sane, love-everyone types, but it won't work. It was your team that shot up a synagogue. Not any leftist. And the people doing the protests are mostly young kids, not billionaires.

You don't get to cite the ADL as evidence for your claim when the issue is whether the ADL has dropped the ball. And in all likelihood, the ADL is afraid of reprisals and is genuflecting like the rest of the country's organizations because your guy is a tyrant. Which is what you wanted all along. Which is why sensible people cannot be friends with you.

And MAGAs wonder why nobody wants to sleep with them.

 

[MOUNTAINH33L]

I struggle wondering who I will be more glad when they are gone from earth...Elon or Donald. It's a tough decision. Just happy both times, I guess.

For me it is 100% Musk. I think he's exponentially more dangerous than the MAGA God-King.

 

[nycfan]

Tell that to the Sioux.

That’s been a while (and there are plenty of other Tribes who might have called the Sioux predatory in their heyday, but no need to digress).