Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

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“… The United States is rapidly being viewed as unreliable”
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"I can tell you Jim it’s not sitting well here in free Tokyo and in free Seoul next-door and it’s generating more and more talk about both nations pursuing nuclear weapons programs"

I honestly think this is the biggest concern. Trump has been saying he's going to pull back from some of our military commitments for a very long time and it looks like it's happening. If we can reduce our defense spending at the same time we reduce our defense commitments, that's going to be great for American taxpayers. The model of funding Ukraine while decimating our greatest geopolitical enemy has been cheap in both blood and treasure and effective.

But if more Nations start seeking nuclear weapons, is that a great trade-off? Nuclear proliferation is pretty scary, even with so-called "responsible" countries. So far, we're the only country that has used them and mutually assured destruction has worked wonders. Will that be the case indefinitely? It's certainly a risk.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
"I can tell you Jim it’s not sitting well here in free Tokyo and in free Seoul next-door and it’s generating more and more talk about both nations pursuing nuclear weapons programs"

I honestly think this is the biggest concern. Trump has been saying he's going to pull back from some of our military commitments for a very long time and it looks like it's happening. If we can reduce our defense spending at the same time we reduce our defense commitments, that's going to be great for American taxpayers. The model of funding Ukraine while decimating our greatest geopolitical enemy has been cheap in both blood and treasure and effective.

But if more Nations start seeking nuclear weapons, is that a great trade-off? Nuclear proliferation is pretty scary, even with so-called "responsible" countries. So far, we're the only country that has used them and mutually assured destruction has worked wonders. Will that be the case indefinitely? It's certainly a risk.
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This speech Vance is giving in Europe is increasing that risk by the moment. He’s basically saying no country can count on us anymore unless it bends to the will of the far right, exemplified by MAGA.
 


“… Vance’s comments brought the event to a standstill.

…The speech focused largely on culture war issues and populism, with Vance accusing European governments and the European Union of being “commissars” more interested in stifling free speech than in providing security for their citizens.

He also attacked high levels of migration, touching on the same themes that animated Donald Trump’s return to power in the United States. He said he was praying for the victims of Thursday’s attack in Munich, when a migrant drove a car into a crowd, injuring 15.

“How many times must we suffer these appalling setbacks before we change course and take our civilization in a different direction?” Vance said. …”



 
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At this point, the US government is a full-on baddie, and it took less than one month.

Musk, tech-theocrats, and unhinged maga white christonationalists have joined forces to lay the foundation of a Russia v EU conflagration to rival all prior conflicts. Vance, Musk, et al. are implicitly in public, and I suspect explicitly in private, giving Putin free rein to invade Poland and the Baltics.

This is a full-frontal attack on democracy and pluralism throughout the western world, and each of us is helping to fund it.
 
Interesting to me, and please correct me if I’m wrong, but Musk has found all of this “waste, fraud” and somehow it is all the fault of the Democrats. Are we to believe that Democrats are solely responsible for all waste and fraud in the US government? I would think that should set off alarm bells for anyone with a mind that thinks critically.
Which means MAGAts are being deceived. Shocking I know from the crowd that if Trump and Musk shit and pissed in a bucket they would shower in it and tell you how clean they are.
 
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