tarheelbillie
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Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread
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So neither heredity or environment are inexorable.
TangledUpInBlue06
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I thought this was a worthwhile read on the reality of federal courts' contempt powers.
Here’s One Big Way You’ll Know if We’re in a Presidential Dictatorship
The media is full of speculation about what happens if the president simply ignores court orders. This question really has two parts. First, what can courts do to compel compliance with their orders? Second, what happens to the country if Trump remains recalcitrant and the courts’ enforcement powers prove ineffectual?
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My own, entirely uncertain, assessment of the current state of play is that the Trumpists would rather not baldly declare a dictatorship but instead overwhelm the courts and the political system with daily assaults on law and custom coupled with persistent, contumacious, but never candidly avowed noncompliance with court orders. The objective of this approach, consistent with Trump’s lifelong approach to litigation, is to delay a conclusive showdown with the judiciary so long that, whatever the legal outcome, the destruction of the federal government and subjection of the executive branch to Trump’s whim will have proceeded too far to be undone.
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The judges are surely aware of the fragility of their own authority in the face of outright defiance by a rogue executive, particularly in a moment when Congress has shown no disposition to defend constitutional separation of powers. For that reason, judges may be reluctant to deploy their contempt power assertively. But this is not the time for judicial timidity. With each passing day, America’s constitutional regime and the capacity of its government erodes further. And with each passing day, the practical ability of the courts to stop, or even materially hinder, the catastrophe diminishes. If there is to be a test of wills between law and Trumpism, it must come now, or it will be too late.
Here’s One Big Way You’ll Know if We’re in a Presidential Dictatorship
The media is full of speculation about what happens if the president simply ignores court orders. This question really has two parts. First, what can courts do to compel compliance with their orders? Second, what happens to the country if Trump remains recalcitrant and the courts’ enforcement powers prove ineffectual?
...
My own, entirely uncertain, assessment of the current state of play is that the Trumpists would rather not baldly declare a dictatorship but instead overwhelm the courts and the political system with daily assaults on law and custom coupled with persistent, contumacious, but never candidly avowed noncompliance with court orders. The objective of this approach, consistent with Trump’s lifelong approach to litigation, is to delay a conclusive showdown with the judiciary so long that, whatever the legal outcome, the destruction of the federal government and subjection of the executive branch to Trump’s whim will have proceeded too far to be undone.
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The judges are surely aware of the fragility of their own authority in the face of outright defiance by a rogue executive, particularly in a moment when Congress has shown no disposition to defend constitutional separation of powers. For that reason, judges may be reluctant to deploy their contempt power assertively. But this is not the time for judicial timidity. With each passing day, America’s constitutional regime and the capacity of its government erodes further. And with each passing day, the practical ability of the courts to stop, or even materially hinder, the catastrophe diminishes. If there is to be a test of wills between law and Trumpism, it must come now, or it will be too late.
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Vance goes to Europe and rumors on European leaders and governments, Rubio goes to Israel and fully embraces Bibi:
“… we have a common strategy … including when the gates of hell will be opened, as surely they will if all our hostages are not released …”
I guess some cover for Trump’s imprudent noon Saturday deadline …
Tarheeljoe
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I did not see this posted and it seems kind of important:
SmilingJack
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It's more performance than policy as they do not have any.
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Yeah, thought I had posted it last night but never did.I did not see this posted and it seems kind of important:
lawtig02
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Might be the most dangerous and antidemocratic thing any president has said in the history of the republic.
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Or lack thereof.
DougDaBroadcasta
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Yep. And a warning to what will happen if he’s not stopped. He is lawless.
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Richard Nixon said, "Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal by definition.” But he said that to David Frost in an interview after he had resigned the Presidency, so I guess your premise stands.
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Well, you’re wrong. You should rethink everything you believe.