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“… Some current and former officials say designating cartels as terrorist groups could potentially lay the groundwork for direct US strikes against the cartels and their drug labs in Mexico. …”
 
Silence Dogood said:
Wait, so your initial reaction isn't to due diligence and be upset that your govt is hiding $4.7T? But rather be upset that the new administration is lowering taxes? You can't be this obtuse! You'll claim that DOGE has no proof, but will go down your own rabbit hole with no proof that DOGE is making this up.
And secondly, they dont need $4.7T to justify lowering taxes. Why do you worship the govt so much you can't see that they're robbing you??
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I just discovered that you like to fondle children. You'll claim I have no proof, but you have no proof that I'm making it up! At the very least it needs to be looked into. Why do you care so much about yourself that you won't protect the children???
 
1moretimeagain said:
I agree. Israel is more than sufficiently capable, so why do we need to provide these bombs?
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I have no idea, but that's a secondary topic.

The claim is that Israel plans to "wipe Palestine off the map" and that is the intent/plan behind being given bombs.

On multiple levels, that makes no sense, so there's no reason to believe it's going to happen.
 
Europe beginning to view USA as an adversary:(

www.rawstory.com

'Backfired spectacularly': European officials reportedly now view US as an 'adversary'

If Vice President J.D. Vance hoped to earn respect among international leaders with his speech in Germany last week, it didn't work, according to one senior diplomat. Vance not only didn't persuade his audience, he insulted them, the Financial Times reported Monday."His speech backfired...
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WaynetheDrain said:
You are really bad at this.

It's not up to us to seek out proof that Musk is telling the truth. It's up to Musk to provide proof when he makes these outlandish accusations. It's called transparency, and it appears that DOGE is the only department in the federal government that doesn't have to adhere to it.

When Musk says the government is "hiding" $4.7 T, your response shouldn't be anger at the government, you're response should be, "Huh? Where is the proof?"

I'll say it again, con men like Donald Trump and Elon Musk have relied on simple-minded people like you for decades to fill their pockets. And you don't seem to be learning any lessons from it.
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True. If someone is asserting that a wrong has been or is being committed it is incumbent on them to prove it.
 
Silence Dogood said:
Wait, so your initial reaction isn't to due diligence and be upset that your govt is hiding $4.7T? But rather be upset that the new administration is lowering taxes? You can't be this obtuse! You'll claim that DOGE has no proof, but will go down your own rabbit hole with no proof that DOGE is making this up.
And secondly, they dont need $4.7T to justify lowering taxes. Why do you worship the govt so much you can't see that they're robbing you??
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I’m a “taxes should be low, the tax base should be broad” conservative. I think that the ultra wealthy should pay taxes, I think that corporations should pay taxes, and I think that lower income people should pay taxes. I think that low taxes helps to foster innovation, entrepreneurship, invention, and creation. I generally believe that people know how to invest and give their money charitably better than the government.

But what the Trump administration is advocating for is cutting taxes for the ultra wealthy and for corporations, while continuing to spend money hand over fist. Sure, they are trying to reduce suspending on certain areas of the government that they think are unnecessary, but they are not actually trying to spend less money overall. You can’t reduce revenue and keep spending the same, or even increase it, and not face dire economic consequences. Neither Republicans nor Democrats have proven themselves to be good stewards of government resources, and to pretend otherwise is foolish. I won’t say that Democrats are completely altruistic in how they spend our money, and I won’t say that Republicans are completely sinister in how they spend our money. And vice versa.

The reality is that Democratic tax policy generally tries to reduce the tax burden on the middle class at the expense of the upper class; Republican tax policy generally tries to reduce the tax burden on the upper class and corporations at the expense of the middle class and lower class. That is not a partisan statement. It’s objectively true. And it’s fine – Republicans and Democrats have completely different policy priorities. As taxpayers, citizens, and voters we all make our individual choices as to which of the two policy objectives we prefer.

The reality is that right now, because Republicans are in power, it is their prerogative to implement tax policy and fiscal policy to their liking. The reality is also that for something like 98% or more of the citizenry in our country, Republican tax policy and fiscal policy is, at best, neutral and at worst punitive. It’s up to each individual voter how they feel about that.
 
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