Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread

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wmheel1287 said:
Gotcha...rules for thee but not for me. Apparently we just get to run rough shod over the planet and do as we please in your viewpoint.

And I absolutely guarantee that whatever Trump does will not positively impact the drug trade because demand always finds supply.
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When it comes to drug cartels which are now terrorist organizations (thanks trump) you are damn right. Rules for thee but not for me. Maybe someone in your family doesn't die because trump took a stand against fentanyl coming into the US.

You are right that demand will always find supply and there is no illusion trump can stop all or even a majority. But you saw the effect it had on hamas and hezbollah when israel took out their top leaders. They all but crumbled. After trump takes out some cartel heads I suspect they will shift their focus back to the good ole days of cocaine where everyone is happy.
 
Actually your other math was off in the other direction, but the point remains: it doesn't take a ranch or even a warehouse to store enough fentanyl to make a shitload of doses and money...
 
TarSpiel said:
I dunno, a lot of those guys have pretty large ranches, and I'm sure the caches aren't being stored at the local police station
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You are correct. These people have houses and travel in cars. We know who they are and have spies who report on them. Mexican authorities are just to corrupt as super pointed out or to scared or to out gunned or whatever. But the result is inaction. We will likely go after the heads and then their replacements until they decide to focus on less lethal drugs
 
Callatoroy said:
I don't have to feel anything about it because it won't ever happen. You are hung up on the premise that fair matters. Fuck fair. We have begged and pleaded for mexico to stop the fentanyl but they either can't or won't. In either case the result is the same. So if they can't or won't then we can either accept 70,000 deaths a year, which could be someone in your family, or we can do something about it. After 4 years of jill doing nothing but giving lip service trump campaigned on doing something and he is going to do something. You can sit on your false moral high ground and publicly trash him for not following "normal" protocol while secretly thanking him after the flow gets cut and cartels are cripled by dead cartel heads. And we aren't attacking an ally. We are attacking a terrorist organization that is killing Americans. You don't have a problem with dropping a drone strike on an isis leader or hamas leader. No difference. Protecting Americans from fentanyl is no different than protecting Americans from suicide bombers in a mall.
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I can’t believe you. Sure there is corruption in Mexico’s police, government and military. But guess what? The corruption exists worldwide. Al Capone’s biggest cost of doing business at the height of his power was graft. The problem is there is just too much money involved in these illegal operations for some people not to have their hands out. But bombing the shit out of suspected cartel assets isn’t going to solve the problem. The problem lies in demand in this country for the drugs. Even if military action could eliminate a cartel (which it can’t), another group would step in to fill the void. Addressing the demand problem in this country is something all administrations have failed at. However, addressing that issue successfully is the only way to eliminate the drug problem. Once again, how would you feel if Mexico carried out military operations in this country? And please don’t give the stupid answer of “Fuck Mexico.” That’s the answer an ignorant redneck would give. But, then again, maybe I’m giving you too much credit.
 


“A Northern Virginia couple is hashing out their next steps after the husband, a 13-year, disabled military veteran and nearly two-year information technology technician with the Federal Emergency Management Agency, was fired Monday, as part of the newly created Department of Government Efficiency’s efforts to shrink the federal workforce.

… Because they are concerned about possible retaliation and a likely appeal to the Merit Systems Protection Board, the couple asked WTOP not to use their names for this story.

The man pointed to the fact that his performance at FEMA was upgraded to “career conditional,” a step between one year and three years, and he was not a “probationary” employee. At three years he would have qualified for “career” status. He also cited his military service, disability status and exceptional performance reviews.

“I was all in the range of fours, which means exceeding expectations,” he said.

… The termination is complicated by the fact that last November they supported Donald Trump when he sought the White House for a second term.

“I voted for Donald Trump. But this is not what I was expecting,” he said. “We didn’t think they were going to take a chainsaw to a silk rug.”

… The man’s wife said they also believed his 13 years of military service in the Navy and Air Force Reserves, with an honorable discharge as an E-4, would have offered him more protection against DOGE cuts.

“I recognize there are a lot of cuts that need to be made, but this is not the one that you think will happen to your family,” she said.

“I encouraged him to take the job there, because he loved working for the agency, and I think it has a good mission.” …”
 
Sorry if postet elsewhere.

From Gov JB Pritzker:

“I do not invoke the specter of Nazis lightly,” he said, adding that he was “watching with a foreboding dread what is happening in our country right now.”


“After we’ve discriminated against, deported or disparaged all the immigrants and the gay and lesbian and transgender people, the developmentally disabled, the women and the minorities — once we’ve ostracized our neighbors and betrayed our friends — after that, when the problems we started with are still there staring us in the face – what comes next?” he asked.


“All the atrocities of human history lurk in the answer to that question. And if we don’t want to repeat history, then for God’s sake in this moment we better be strong enough to learn from it,” Pritzker said. “It took the Nazis one month, three weeks, two days, eight hours and 40 minutes to dismantle a constitutional republic. All I’m saying is when the five-alarm fire starts to burn, every good person better be ready to man a post with a bucket of water if you want to stop it from raging out of control.”
 
Healing said:
Yeah, I don’t see it that way, at all. You may see Vance as malleable, I see him as cynical and calculated. For all the “Thiel is his puppet master” I think there’s equal chance Vance is using the tech lords for his own devices, which more aligns with Heritage, and I suspect have from the start.
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I think Thiel was the former puppet master, he's a lot more vulnerable these days and seemed to have backed off from outright political operations a few years ago. Its not necessarily Heritage who has interest in him but Rebekah Mercer, who sits on the Heritage board. Shes invested in a number of Vance's ventures.

Also, I think people really overlook Usha, which is rather amazing amidst all of the rightful criticism of who is behind Vance. Other than some anti-Indian rhetoric coming from the nativist right, very few are digging into who Usha is, her own questionable past, and who her family really is as well. For example, how many people talk about how the current VP's wife once was employed by the CCP? Let's look at her father, a man who worked in the aerospace industry for many years (despite being a foreign born immigrant), which normally wouldn't be such an issue, except when it turns out the very company her father worked for many years, Collins Aerospace, turned out to have been in several controversies regarding the theft of American aerospace tech which then got handed over to the Chinese (see below).

The charging letter reveals that most of the underlying violations stem from improper jurisdiction and classification efforts that were undertaken by Collins Aerospace personnel. According to the letter, on a number of occasions from 2014 through 2023, Collins Aerospace employees routinely engaged in unauthorized exports of controlled technical data to foreign person employees based on a misapplication of the ITAR’s “specially designed” definition and release criteria. As a result, Collins Aerospace personnel caused data related to USML Category VIII(i), and connected to the production of Boeing’s E-3 Sentry Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircraft, as well as the Embraer KC-390 Millennium, and F-22 Raptor, to be released to Chinese nationals employed at its facilities in Cedar Rapids and Shanghai.

In a related incident, RTX Corporation also illegally exported technical data connected to the “aluminum display housing component” of the F-22 Raptor to at least four (4) entities physically situated in the PRC as part of a formal request for quotation (“RFQ”), operating under the false assumption that both the component and related technical data were actually controlled under the auspices of the Export Administration Regulations (“EAR”). In a separate series of incidents that occurred between March 2015 and May 2023, Collins Aerospace personnel further illegally exported Category XI(d) technical data to a number of entities located in the PRC, again as part of its RFQ process. An internal investigation into the root cause of the latter violation ultimately revealed that Collins Aerospace personnel had erroneously relied on the contents of a 2015 memorandum contemplating the future commercial exploitation of certain circuit card assemblies in radio devices that never came to fruition.

https://blog.volkovlaw.com/2024/09/rtx-corporation-reaches-record-200-million-settlement-with-ddtc-for-serial-violations-of-the-aeca-and-itar/

We need to be hitting Usha a lot harder, I'd say there is a half decent chance her and her family are tied up into some foreign espionage, very likely tied to the BJP (Modi's party). It was also reported in Indian press that Usha's family are in India's version of the Proud Boys. There are so many questions as to what she's really up to, and what if she is in fact, JD's ultimate handler and not so much these tech bros? Whose really dictating things?

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nycfan said:
Serious question, can you explain what this means? [If it helps, I can provide background on the grant in question]
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The Environmental Protection Agency under the Biden administration awarded Power Forward Communities the grant in April 2024 as part of the agency’s Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund program. Power Forward Communities received the green energy grant despite the fact that it was founded months earlier in late 2023 and never managed anywhere near the grant’s dollar figure—it reported just $100 in total revenue during its first three months in operation, according to its latest tax filings.

Power Forward Communities’ grant was one of just eight Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund grants that the EPA doled out in April 2024 and that, altogether, totaled $20 billion. EPA administrator Lee Zeldin announced on Feb. 13 that his staff and Department of Government Efficiency officials discovered that the Biden administration parked that same $20 billion at an outside financial institution before leaving office, limiting the federal government’s oversight of the program.
 
Since something like 85%+ of fentanyl comes into the U.S. via U.S. citizens - who I presume are not Mexican cartel members- at legal ports of entry, are we going to drone strike them, too?

I remember when I was a Republican, I used to think that the way to solve the issue of all of the bad guys in the world was to just sic the U.S. military on them and bomb them into oblivion. Then, I grew up, got over my immature fetish of thinking that we can simply do whatever the fuck we want because we have a strong military, other countries and other people be damned, and I joined the real world where there’s tons of nuance and gray area and no easy solutions to complex problems. Coincidentally, I was no longer Republican by that time!

It goes without saying: fuck the cartels, fuck criminals. But also, fuck people who think that violation of another country’s sovereignty and probable collateral damage of its citizens is the proper way to conduct our affairs.
 
Silence Dogood said:


The Environmental Protection Agency under the Biden administration awarded Power Forward Communities the grant in April 2024 as part of the agency’s Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund program. Power Forward Communities received the green energy grant despite the fact that it was founded months earlier in late 2023 and never managed anywhere near the grant’s dollar figure—it reported just $100 in total revenue during its first three months in operation, according to its latest tax filings.

Power Forward Communities’ grant was one of just eight Greenhouse Gas Reduction Fund grants that the EPA doled out in April 2024 and that, altogether, totaled $20 billion. EPA administrator Lee Zeldin announced on Feb. 13 that his staff and Department of Government Efficiency officials discovered that the Biden administration parked that same $20 billion at an outside financial institution before leaving office, limiting the federal government’s oversight of the program.
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Project Veritas has less credibility than Baron Munchausen.
 
CFordUNC said:
I joined the real world where there’s tons of nuance and gray area and no easy solutions to complex problems.
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This is the moment most left of center perspectives cement, in my experience.

Just look at maga, every problem is a nail - just swing a hammer at it, ie a strongman, a bully, a daddy, threats, and violence. Sure, there’s the unending selfishness of the right, but in the aggregate, the unwillingness (usually out of unreflected insecurity) or inability to perceive and respect nuance functionally lies at the heart of their consistently predictable simplistic “solutions” and poorly reinforced logic. Sometimes it’s a genuine lack of intelligence, but often it’s a lack of exposure to a world of complexity. That’s why Heritage et al. has sought to destroy public education, for decades.
 
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