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gtyellowjacket said:
Out of curiosity, outside of Trumpworld, what does one call it when a person is hiding in the bushes with a rifle waiting for the president to come up the fairway?
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Maybe a plot but not an attempt. You need to at least be in eye shot for it to be an attempt.
 
Democrats are learning and I’m glad. Embracing sanctuary cities will not allow them to ever win again. The tie has been cast. The polls support a strong border and legal immigration. The fact that Democrats (outside of Biden) have been better on the border than Republicans was taken off the table in recent elections because of a fanatical desire to try to avoid saying something insensitive. Democrats are better on the border and it’s been clear over and over. Biden was an exception but the party booted him. Who cares - let’s move on and forward and get back to winning!
 
gtyellowjacket said:
That seems like a very small difference to me. To me, it seems like that guy attempted to assassinate Trump. It also seems like he plotted to kill Trump.
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Then would you consider it an assassination attempt when the gunman actually shot into the Obama White House even though, unknown to the gunman, they weren't home? I don't consider either of them to be since there was never a time when they were in danger.
 
finesse said:
Then would you consider it an assassination attempt when the gunman actually shot into the Obama White House even though, unknown to the gunman, they weren't home? I don't consider either of them to be since there was never a time when they were in danger.
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Certainly. He attempted to assassinate Obama.
 
Rockin' and a-rollin', splishin' and a-splashin',
Over the horizon, what can it be?

The pilgrims sailed the sea
To find a place to call their own.
In their ship Mayflower,
They hoped to find a better home.
They finally knocked
On Plymouth Rock
And someone said, "We're there."
It may not look like home
But at this point I don't care.

Oh, they were missing Mother England,
They swore their loyalty until the very end.
Anything you say, King,
It's OK, King,
You know it's kinda scary on your own.
Gonna build a new land
The way we planned.
Could you help us run it till it's grown?

They planted corn, you know
They built their houses one by one,
And bit by bit they worked
Until the colonies were done.
They looked around,
Yeah, up and down,
And someone said, "Hurray!"
If the king could only see us now
He would be proud of us today.

They knew that now they'd run their own land,
But George the Third still vowed
He'd rule them till the end.

Anything I say, do it my way now.
Anything I say, do it my way.
Don't you get to feeling independent
'Cause I'm gonna force you to obey.

He taxed their property,
He didn't give them any choice,
And back in England,
He didn't give them any voice.
(That's called taxation without representation,
And it's not fair!)
But when the Colonies complained
The king said: "I don't care!"
He even has the nerve
To tax our cup of tea.
To put it kindly, King,
We really don't agree.
Gonna show you how we feel.
We're gonna dump this tea
And turn this harbor into
The biggest cup of tea in history!

They wanted no more Mother England.
They knew the time had come
For them to take command.

It's very clear you're being unfair, King,
No matter what you say, we won't obey.
Gonna hold a revolution now, King,

And we're gonna run it all our way
With no more kings...

We're gonna elect a president! (No more kings)
He's gonna do what the people want! (No more kings)
We're gonna run things our way! (No more kings)


Nobody's gonna tell us what to do!
Rockin' and a-rollin', splishin' and a-splashin',
Over the horizon, what can it be?

Looks like it's going to be a free country.
 
finesse said:
You're the one thinking in the wrong terms. One of the points in what I said is that legalization and access will prevent people from taking that, or anything else, without knowing what and how much of anything they got. Raiding Mexico will not even dent the fentanyl trade. American citizens will still be smuggling it in.
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Legalizing hard drugs is up there with abolishing the police as far as stupid ideas the far left comes up with. Get real, people who advocate this have no idea how unserious of a proposal this is, its so unrealistic and will be far more harmful than you realize. You know nothing about human psychology or why people do drugs in the first place if this is your idea of a solution.

It actually sickens me that people think its okay for the government to offer people ways to destroy their own lives (and anyone who loves them).
 
AlbionAmerican said:
Legalizing hard drugs is up there with abolishing the police as far as stupid ideas the far left comes up with. Get real, people who advocate this have no idea how unserious of a proposal this is, its so unrealistic and will be far more harmful than you realize. You know nothing about human psychology or why people do drugs in the first place if this is your idea of a solution.

It actually sickens me that people think its okay for the government to offer people ways to destroy their own lives (and anyone who loves them).
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You might want to see what the Cato Institute has to say about that. They are definitely not far left. What you are discussing , I guess is to continue a policy of prohibition that hasn't worked anywhere at any time for any substance ever while enriching the illegal suppliers. The Mafia and such gangs got rich off of Prohibition. The cartels got rich off prohibition. Add to it, the tainted supply and uncertain dosages greatly increase the dangers of the drugs. You don't have a leg to stand on.
 
superrific said:
Shocking that a poster calling himself AlbionAmerican would make such a big deal that a "foreign born immigrant" is working for a huge aerospace company (Collins has 50K employees and like 100 offices around the country; my son was looking at them for an internship).

The problem is not Usha. There's not a shred of evidence that the Vice-President's wife is calling any shots. The problem is Trump and Elon and his sycophants.

You idiots object when we point out your animus toward brown people, but then post shit like this.
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Usha literally was an employee of the Chinese Communist Party for a period of time her in life, but pointing this out is me hating brown people? You are the idiot here, for the record I aint MAGA d!ckhead, but I call things as they are. You are a fool who doesn't understand how spy games or global power works. Usha and her family obviously have ties to very right wing elements in India, but criticizing this in your view is "racist".
 
AlbionAmerican said:
Usha literally was an employee of the Chinese Communist Party for a period of time her in life, but pointing this out is me hating brown people? You are the idiot here, for the record I aint MAGA d!ckhead, but I call things as they are. You are a fool who doesn't understand how spy games or global power works. Usha and her family obviously have ties to very right wing elements in India, but criticizing this in your view is "racist".
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You do understand spy games, Mr. Netflix?

Usha Vance spent one year in China teaching English -- like hundreds of thousands of other people. An ex-gf of mine did the same in Vietnam; didn't make her a communist.

Even by your exceedingly low standards, this is pathetic and disgusting. First, there's nothing at all suspicious about a "foreign born immigrant" (as if there are other types) working for an aerospace company; there are thousands of them who work for Collins. Second, choose your theory: is she a right-wing Hindu nationalist or a Chinese communist? Those two groups are not friends. Third, and most importantly, she's the fucking Second Lady. She's about as far removed from the decision making as possible. But she is the only brown person you can see, so of course you target her.

P.S. the Indian version of the proud boys is called the BJP and they currently hold power. Literally 500 million people are affiliated with it.
 
superrific said:
You do understand spy games, Mr. Netflix?

Usha Vance spent one year in China teaching English -- like hundreds of thousands of other people. An ex-gf of mine did the same in Vietnam; didn't make her a communist.

Even by your exceedingly low standards, this is pathetic and disgusting. First, there's nothing at all suspicious about a "foreign born immigrant" (as if there are other types) working for an aerospace company; there are thousands of them who work for Collins. Second, choose your theory: is she a right-wing Hindu nationalist or a Chinese communist? Those two groups are not friends. Third, and most importantly, she's the fucking Second Lady. She's about as far removed from the decision making as possible. But she is the only brown person you can see, so of course you target her.

P.S. the Indian version of the proud boys is called the BJP and they currently hold power. Literally 500 million people are affiliated with it.
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No, you are wrong, 500m people are not part of RSS. Read below.

Hypothetically, if a VP's spouse's family were Jewish, but not the nice American kind, but the kind who had family who were in Israel and were all hardline Kahanists, don't you think that might be concerning? You're probably the type who'd fall into the Netanyahu/ADL/Likud psyop where criticizing racist scumbags like them = me committing an anti-Semitism!

Pointing this out isn't me being "racist", its you being obviously naive, and honestly its a big reason we're in the mess we're in today. People need to criticize things that are concerning, not fall prey to these games where you're called a racist for obvious conflicts of interest (which is a tactic the CCP, Israelis, Russians, etc. all do as a way to weaken an American response to their ops).

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AlbionAmerican said:
No, you are wrong, 500m people are not part of RSS. Read below.

Hypothetically, if a VP's spouse's family were Jewish, but not the nice American kind, but the kind who had family who were in Israel and were all hardline Kahanists, don't you think that might be concerning? You're probably the type who'd fall into the Netanyahu/ADL/Likud psyop where criticizing racist scumbags like them = me committing an anti-Semitism!

Pointing this out isn't me being "racist", its you being obviously naive, and honestly its a big reason we're in the mess we're in today. People need to criticize things that are concerning, not fall prey to these games where you're called a racist for obvious conflicts of interest (which is a tactic the CCP, Israelis, Russians, etc. all do as a way to weaken an American response to their ops).
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So your allegation is based on the political leanings of Usha's great uncle? I don't think you want to go down that road. I'll bet a fair number of people on this board had great uncles who belonged to the KKK. That doesn't mean shit.

In general, I don't hold the activities of a person's great uncle against them. It is indicative of nothing.
 
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