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If by "outsider" you mean "persons most likley to personally benefit financially from having control", then yes.
Trump / Musk (other than DOGE) Omnibus Thread
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ZenMode
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I'm more talking about objectively looking at processes to see where they can be streamlined, weeding out duplicate or unnecessary positions..... Stuff like that. Nothing that would be R or D. Like "Bar Rescue" on steroids and for the government.
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“… Johnson would put forth what's known as a "concurrent resolution" that would call for both the House and the Senate to adjourn, which the House would then approve. At that point, it would no longer matter if the Senate was unable to muster a majority to go into recess. Trump would simply cite Article 2, Section 3 and direct both chambers to adjourn — perhaps for a very long time.
… Johnson, however, surely doesn't care about such niceties. What matters is simply whether he can get 218 votes to back him up. The only piece of potentially good news in all this is that, thanks to the anarchic House GOP caucus, Johnson has labored mightily to cobble together majorities in the past and often failed.
That task will be as tough as ever given his extremely narrow majority.
But Republicans understand very well that parliamentary maneuvering seldom matters to voters, so on this occasion, the speaker conceivably could keep his coalition together — especially considering the possibility that well-funded primary challengers could be sicced on Republicans who don’t toe the line.
That leaves only the Supreme Court, which clamped down on recess appointments once before. But that ruling came down when Barack Obama was president. The court's far-right supermajority, which has enabled Trump time and again, would likely have little problem finding a facile way to sanction such appointments with a Republican in charge.
It's still possible none of this comes to pass.
The Senate could, for instance, retain a fig-leaf version of its right to vet nominees by simply rubber-stamping Trump's picks, no matter how odious or unqualified. It looks like Thune will be able to spare three votes in the Senate, after all.
But even if a few Republican senators stand up for themselves and resist Trump's recess appointments scheme, no one should assume Mike Johnson would do the same. And if he caves, a cornerstone of our democracy will crumble with him.”
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… Johnson, however, surely doesn't care about such niceties. What matters is simply whether he can get 218 votes to back him up. The only piece of potentially good news in all this is that, thanks to the anarchic House GOP caucus, Johnson has labored mightily to cobble together majorities in the past and often failed.
That task will be as tough as ever given his extremely narrow majority.
But Republicans understand very well that parliamentary maneuvering seldom matters to voters, so on this occasion, the speaker conceivably could keep his coalition together — especially considering the possibility that well-funded primary challengers could be sicced on Republicans who don’t toe the line.
That leaves only the Supreme Court, which clamped down on recess appointments once before. But that ruling came down when Barack Obama was president. The court's far-right supermajority, which has enabled Trump time and again, would likely have little problem finding a facile way to sanction such appointments with a Republican in charge.
It's still possible none of this comes to pass.
The Senate could, for instance, retain a fig-leaf version of its right to vet nominees by simply rubber-stamping Trump's picks, no matter how odious or unqualified. It looks like Thune will be able to spare three votes in the Senate, after all.
But even if a few Republican senators stand up for themselves and resist Trump's recess appointments scheme, no one should assume Mike Johnson would do the same. And if he caves, a cornerstone of our democracy will crumble with him.”
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How Johnson could make Trump's recess appointments a reality
Talk of cutting out Dems — and GOP dissenters — is more than just idle rhetoric.
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Which doesn't change a thing.
If nothing else, having two heads in a organization to weed out duplicate and unnecessary positions is ridiculous and a middle finger to the idiots who take their mission seriously. It's like a negative IQ test. If you'll believe that, you'll believe anything.
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Look! We’re not even two weeks into having Trump 2.0 and we’ve already got the board Pubs agreeing with us about how ridiculously stupid Trump and Tom Cotton’s proposal- boosted by Bernie Sanders- to cap credit card interests at 10%. That’s #bipartisanship baby!
When the far left and the far right agree on anything, it’s probably a bad proposal.
When the far left and the far right agree on anything, it’s probably a bad proposal.
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The executive actions and reviews underway include the return of the program informally known as “remain in Mexico,” which requires migrants to stay in Mexico during their immigration proceedings in the US, revising asylum restrictions, revoking protections for migrants covered by Biden’s humanitarian parole programs and undoing ICE’s enforcement priorities, according to two sources briefed on transition policy discussions.
Another executive order that is being considered would make detention mandatory and call for an end to releasing migrants, which often happens across administrations because of limited federal resources. It’s that type of executive order, sources say, that would pave the way for detaining and eventually, deporting people at a large scale.
Trump’s team is also reviewing regional capability for housing migrants – a process likely to lead to consideration of the construction of new detention facilities in larger metropolitan areas, according to two sources. Homeland Security officials have previously identified multiple cities in which to build up detention capability in preparation for border surges.
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But they are also evaluating a potential national emergency declaration to unlock Pentagon resources – which was done during Trump’s first term and faced lawsuits – and tailoring that declaration to pave the way for expanding detention space, according to one of the sources.
The private sector, which the federal government heavily relies on for detention space, is also preparing to add more beds. In a recent eaomrnings call, CoreCivic CEO Damon Hininger noted the increased need for detention capacity. CoreCivic is one of the largest private prison operators in the US. …”
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I'm confused. Is your concern that Musk and Ramaswamy are too politically biased to do their job, are you against looking at the federal government for general efficiency improvements or are you against having two people doing it?
BlooVooDoo
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When does the minefield come into play? You just know it’s being discussed.
One and three. The lack of vetting of qualifications also greatly concerns me.
ZenMode
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Got it.
BlooVooDoo
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Maybe she wants a pony.
rodoheel
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Sure, if you ignore everything they've said about the endeavor, I could see how one would be optimistic. But anyone who listens to them talk for about ten seconds about it will realize that the likelihood that it will result in an objective and rational look at how the government can do things better is a fool. Their only goal is to hack and burn.
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So, I see the richest man on the planet, with access to more direct communication to the masses than anyone, is now openly identifying with symbols used by avowed Nazis and holocaust supporters (intentionally did not use “deniers”).
This is the continued language of pre-genocide, pre-mass repression.
Thank you in advance for all the whataboutisms, “yeah but”s, and “he’s just joking” that I won’t see.
This is the continued language of pre-genocide, pre-mass repression.
Thank you in advance for all the whataboutisms, “yeah but”s, and “he’s just joking” that I won’t see.
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If you think we’ve addressed improper nutrition, we’ll have to agree to disagree. By many measures, America is less healthy now than it’s ever been. Poor diet, poor exercise are the main two culprits.
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100%. And while at it, how could “they” stay busy? What if, while in the “holding centers” administered by Geo Group and CoreCivic, they kept their hands busy - maybe with manufacturing rudimentary components of rockets? Oil rigs? Ttump ties?
BlooVooDoo
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The reality is that things like this are an uphill battle because of corporate lobbyists.
Sugarcoating the Truth: The Role of Lobbying in America’s Obesity Epidemic — Columbia Political Review
In January 2024, Indiana State Representative John Bartlett proposed a bill to ban high-fructose corn syrup from all food and beverage products sold in the state. The bill addresses certain ingredients unique to the American diet understood to be at the root of America’s obesity epidemic. A
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Bottom Line: Confectioners lobby up for sugar program showdown
Sugar The National Confectioners Association hired NVG to lobby on changes to sugar policy, one of the food and agriculture issues in the farm bill. The confectioners have pushed to reform the sug…
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The Bittersweet Truth: The Sugar Industry’s Manipulation of Nutrition Guidelines - Brown Political Review
For over fifty years, the sugar industry has led a campaign to diminish the negative perception of sugar and manipulate official nutrition guidelines.
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The food industry lobby groups behind the new school nutrition standards
No wonder Pop Tarts count as a whole grain.
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Cheese carve-out for school meals threatens student health
As USDA attempts to reduce salt in school meals, lobbying from Big Dairy could reverse progress—at the expense of children's health.
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sringwal
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No shit, sherlock.
2012. Piece of advice. Finesse is one of the most intelligent, and oldest, people here. I come from a political household, read the newspaper every morning growing up, and took a class on the 1990 N.C. senate election in fifth grade. And I can say, definitively, that finesse understands politics on a level far beyond my own. Listen to what he is saying because, right now, he is running circles around you and it's awkward to watch.
Name them. I'll bet all of them are about ignoring medical advice. Are you suggesting a nanny state where we force people to eat and exercise "properly" while still supporting people who celebrate the brain deads who reject vaccines.? Are you even aware that theories about proper nutrition are almost as common as versions of the Bible (3000) or Christian denominations (45,000) and about as controversial?