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Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)
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WaynetheDrain
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She's definitely jealous. A few months ago, she was jet setting around with Donald on his private plane and accompanying him everywhere. Then, he bombed the debate and finally kicked her to the curb. Now Elon has slid into her spot as the Trump Whisperer and she's not happy about it.
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MAGA is batting an eye over this and Musk is striking back. Like I’ve been saying, Musk tech bro fan boys (Muskovites??) and MAGA have overlap but are different groups with different priorities. And Musk grabbed the MAGA third rail on immigration.
All-Out MAGA Civil War Engulfs Trump Already
Trump’s winning electoral coalition couldn’t quite make it through the season of goodwill.
“… Overnight, Trump cheerleaders have used Elon Musk’s platform to attack the world’s richest man—and many now claim Musk is using his social media omnipotence to shut them down.
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“This is America. We don’t have a monarchy. This is outrageous,” she wrote on X, formerly Twitter, after claiming that she was being censored on the platform by Musk.
Loomer waded into the Boxing Day culture war sparked by Vivek Ramaswamy’s controversial post claiming that “American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence for way too long.”
A debate over H1B visas has quickly descended into a bitter feud between those—led by the tech crowd—who believe importing highly skilled workers from abroad will boost the American economy and those—like Trump himself—who have long argued that the visas are being abused by companies seeking cheaper foreign labor to the detriment of American workers.
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“Tech bros have never seen this statement from @realDonaldTrump because they only decided to pretend being MAGA 4 months ago after Trump almost has his head blown off in Butler, PA. I am an original MAGA Trump supporter. I’m as die hard as they come. MAGA! AMERICA FIRST!”
Soon after her intervention, Loomer found that her X privileges had been curtailed. She said her checkmark had been removed, and her subscriptions had been canceled. …”
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“… Dozens of other accounts criticizing Musk and Ramaswamy’s position also claimed that their checkmarks had been taken away.
The executive director of Women for America First, Kylie Jane Kremer, said hers had disappeared. The ConservativeOG group on X said the same had happened to them and their affiliated influencers. …”
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“… Dozens of other accounts criticizing Musk and Ramaswamy’s position also claimed that their checkmarks had been taken away.
The executive director of Women for America First, Kylie Jane Kremer, said hers had disappeared. The ConservativeOG group on X said the same had happened to them and their affiliated influencers. …”
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Even a blind monkey...
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On a related note, in case you missed Ramaswamy’s critique of American culture that is somewhat at the root of this Muskovites v MAGA violence:
Short version - “normal” America sucks and is incapable of producing kids smart enough to be computer engineers. Not saying he is entirely wrong, but a curious message when your base is MAGA.
Short version - “normal” America sucks and is incapable of producing kids smart enough to be computer engineers. Not saying he is entirely wrong, but a curious message when your base is MAGA.
lawtig02
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This is why MAGA is just completely unsustainable absent an Orban-like destruction of our democratic institutions. Elon and Vivek cannot coexist in a political alliance with Joe from Waco and Peggy from Tupelo. It's not just that they're completely different people with incompatible worldviews. It's that when you dig an inch beneath the surface, they absolutely HATE each other. I think Elon is extremely dangerous in the moment, but it's possible we look back on him as the first cancer cell that led to MAGA's destruction. There's no chance Trump has the brains or the cleverness to hold this together.
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So, again, maga, your techno-god is, at best, sympathetic to the idea you have mass intellectual disability.
Congrats, Musk wants nothing to do with you (other than your fawning praise and traffic on that site), prefers you live in servitude, but on the flip side Dems dooooo want to offer free retraining for a modern economy, free college, and free childcare to facilitate skill building, so I def get it! Fuck Dems.
Congrats, Musk wants nothing to do with you (other than your fawning praise and traffic on that site), prefers you live in servitude, but on the flip side Dems dooooo want to offer free retraining for a modern economy, free college, and free childcare to facilitate skill building, so I def get it! Fuck Dems.
ZenMode
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Musk and Ramaswamy defend foreign worker visas, sparking MAGA backlash
Social media posts by Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy arguing in favor of expanding the visa program for highly skilled workers have set off a debate among supporters of President-elect Donald Trump over how the program should fit into the incoming administration’s aggressive immigration agenda.
Musk and Ramaswamy, whom Trump has tapped to lead his Department of Government Efficiency, defended companies who use workers on H-1B visas, arguing tech companies — including those owned by Musk — depend on foreign workers to operate. But their message rankled some of Trump’s most loyal defenders who expect his administration to crack down on immigration and promote American labor.
Trump restricted access to foreign worker visas during his first term and has targeted the H-1B program in past remarks. But during the 2024 campaign, Trump signaled openness to giving some foreign-born workers legal status if they graduated from a US university.
In a social media post on Wednesday, Musk said US tech companies need “double” the amount of engineers working in America today and compared the benefits of the program to a professional sports team recruiting the best talent from around the world.
“If you want your TEAM to win the championship, you need to recruit top talent wherever they may be. That enables the whole TEAM to win,” Musk wrote on X.
“I am referring to bringing in via legal immigration the top ~0.1% of engineering talent as being essential for America to keep winning,” Musk wrote in another post on Thursday. “Thinking of America as a pro sports team that has been winning for a long time and wants to keep winning is the right mental construct.”
Ramaswamy, a first-generation US citizen whose parents immigrated from India, concurred with Musk while defending companies that look outside the US for labor, arguing tech companies hire engineers who were born outside the US or born to American immigrants because “American culture has venerated mediocrity over excellence,” citing portrayals of smart students in TV sitcoms “Boy Meets World,” “Saved By The Bell” and “Family Matters” as evidence.
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Right-wing media to the rescue!
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On a related note, in case you missed Ramaswamy’s critique of American culture that is somewhat at the root of this Muskovites v MAGA violence:
Short version - “normal” America sucks and is incapable of producing kids smart enough to be computer engineers. Not saying he is entirely wrong, but a curious message when your base is MAGA.
He is wrong in many ways.
Intelligence, drive, and success manifest in various forms. He appears to want to confine it to his own perception of success.
I suppose it will be beneficial when we have an excess of doctors and engineers, leading to surplus of labor and a decrease in demand and pay. Meanwhile, a reduction in the workers in other professions will drive up demand and pay.
We have already witnessed this phenomenon. The culture of insisting that every child must attend college led to a lack of skilled tradespeople, causing an increase in demand and many unfilled positions.
It is not as simple as he seems believe. Everyone is different, not all people are driven toward the 100-hour work week for life's fulfillment.
Balance is essential. Balance between work and life, as well as in fulfilling all the job roles this country.
lawtig02
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Maybe, but I'm not sure this can be reconciled. I could see RWM throwing Musk under the bus, though. At which point, what does Trump do? Trump is so deep on Musk at this point that I'm not sure he can, or will, be able to extricate himself.