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“Failed in the eyes of the public,” is what one says when one knows the facts say otherwise.

I do think the dems failed at messaging on the economy for the last election.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
They weren't thinking - they voted for him precisely because of shit like this. They see him as endlessly entertaining, are convinced that nothing bad will ever happen to them because of anything Trump does, and love that he upsets other people (thinking people - or as they call them, snobs) so much, especially liberals with college degrees. "Look at all those people getting red-faced over him threatening to just take Greenland or the Panama Canal! Ha ha! All those snooty liberals losing their minds over this. Oh, I'm loving this!" He's "blowing up the system", "turning over the applecart", "disrupting the status quo" or whatever the hell they want to call it.

The fact that he's also causing very real damage to our relationships with our allies and doing the bidding of people like Putin doesn't bother them in the least, or matter to them at all. He's fun, he's entertaining, he hates the people they hate and makes them mad, and so they love it and want it to continue. Until, that is, his bullshit and idiocy and antics gets us into a war or causes a (at minimum) severe recession or leads to lots of Americans getting killed here or abroad, or something he does starts to affect them personally. But even that won't change their minds - they'll just somehow still blame Democrats and liberals and their usual suspects rather than Dear Leader (or themselves for voting for him).
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I literally do laugh a people who get bent out of shape over taking trump seriously on stuff like greenland or the canal. I can't believe you elites don't understand he couldn't do it. He is trolling you and you fall for it every time. He snatches that football away and you guys keep running to kick it.
 
So he never means any of it, can't do anything he's talking about, literally everyone should know that, but it is an effective means of leverage over other national actors because.... ?

Complete this thought, oh great authority on hypocrisy.
 
So mortgage rates remain high despite the Fed cutting rates twice because Trump just wants to troll the American people?
What kind of person would believe this and at the same time support it?
 
I still blame drunk ass Ted Turner 6/1/1980 for the end of media as a source of information and transitioning to 100% soap selling. Once media found scary news sells adds and combined that with fear mongering talking heads....here we are.

Read a book people.

Didn't know he was in bad health but he turned the evening news into 24/7 fear mongering advertising. Also basically resurrected "wrasslin" from local to "world wide"
Not a hater but not a fan.... except for the America's Cup win!
 
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SmilingJack said:
I still blame drunk ass Ted Turner 6/1/1980 for the end of media as a source of information and transitioning to 100% soap selling. Once media found scary news sells adds and combined that with fear mongering talking heads....here we are.
Read a book people.
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William Randolph Hearst and Joseph Pulitzer excelled at using yellow journalism in the 1890’s. They didn’t invent it; they did use it. The papers from Jefferson’s time could certainly be called yellow journalism.

If Ted Turner didn’t create 24/7 television news, Roger Ailes would have.
 
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He's literally talking like a New York mob boss from an old movie - "you don't play ball here, we're going to burn your shop down." The notion that this is going to force Denmark to give up Greenland - or even that if they did this is somehow an appropriate or long-term effective way for America to deal with other countries - is both ridiculous and frightening, or it ought to be for anyone with a brain and sense of ethics. How is pissing off Denmark and alienating them going to benefit us in the long run? Why do we really need Greenland - we've done just fine without it until now, why the sudden urgency? It's Putin-style blustering and bullying, and will almost certainly lead more to alienating and isolating us from our allies rather than helping us, which is likely the end goal here - of our enemies, not our friends, that is.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
He's literally talking like a New York mob boss from an old movie - "you don't play ball here, we're going to burn your shop down." The notion that this is going to force Denmark to give up Greenland - or even that if they did this is somehow an appropriate or long-term effective way for America to deal with other countries - is both ridiculous and frightening, or it ought to be for anyone with a brain and sense of ethics. How is pissing off Denmark and alienating them going to benefit us in the long run? Why do we really need Greenland - we've done just fine without it until now, why the sudden urgency? It's Putin-style blustering and bullying, and will almost certainly lead more to alienating and isolating us from our allies rather than helping us, which is likely the end goal here - of our enemies, not our friends, that is.
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