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He's literally talking like a New York mob boss from an old movie - "you don't play ball here, we're going to burn your shop down." The notion that this is going to force Denmark to give up Greenland - or even that if they did this is somehow an appropriate or long-term effective way for America to deal with other countries - is both ridiculous and frightening, or it ought to be for anyone with a brain and sense of ethics. How is pissing off Denmark and alienating them going to benefit us in the long run? Why do we really need Greenland - we've done just fine without it until now, why the sudden urgency? It's Putin-style blustering and bullying, and will almost certainly lead more to alienating and isolating us from our allies rather than helping us, which is likely the end goal here - of our enemies, not our friends, that is.
No mob boss or soldier would say, “If you don’t play ball here, we’re going to burn your shop down.”

The statement would be, “Nice place you have. Be a shame if something happened to it.”

That’s how Trump talks.
 


“…
“So many life lessons to be learned from speedrunning video games on max difficulty,” Musk wrote on his social-media platform X on Nov. 20, before going on to announce that he’d just cleared the highest tier of a section of the game called “The Pit” in under two minutes. He included a video clip of the milestone.

Such an accomplishment requires more than just expertise in monster slashing. It takes dozens of hours just to reach the highest tier, which is level 150. The Pit was only added to the game in May and the latest season kicked off on Oct. 7, resetting all players’ progression to level 1. That suggests Musk made his way to the top level in 45 days or less.

Musk oversees six companies, including brain-computer startup Neuralink, tunneling startup The Boring Company and artificial-intelligence startup xAI. He’s a prolific poster on the social-media platform X, which he bought in 2022. He is now helping oversee a sweeping revamp of the federal government as co-head of Trump’s Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE.

His vast array of commitments have left everyone wondering: How on Earth did he find the time to do it? …”

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Same guy who says working from home is immoral.

Captain Insecure showed an unfamiliarity with gameplay needed to get a character to that level. Must be odd to be the richest man in the world and have no self esteem.

 
Just to be clear:
1. China does not control or operate the Panama Canal. More than 20 years ago, Chinese companies (originally HK companies) won concessions to operate cargo ports on the Atlantic and Pacific side (those are not the only ports that operate, btw.
2. the US does not pay a higher fee. US naval vessels still have a priority of access, per the treaty.
3. Panama did not ask the US for money for improvements; those improvements come from the fees the Authority charges.

 
There is little to no strategic benefit having Greenland controlled by us vs. a NATO ally. We already have an AF base there.

This stunt does provide cover for Russia's and China's aspirations. Georgia and Taiwan are now in play much sooner than if he had kept his mouth shut. Soft power isn't the opposite of hard power. Soft power is the opposite of strategic debacle...
 
lol at you thinking i give a fuc whether posters on this board take me seriously.

Inflation and cost of living was the number 1 reason the dems lost the election. If you are saying they were focused on the high cost of living during the last 4 years then they failed spectacularly in the eyes of the public. Of course, that has been pointed out all throughout the media, even dem media. So, the trends and current numbers I'm opining on are election results. Homework's done.
Like I said, you've got four years. Hopefully once the Gulf of Mexico is re-named and you're done pretending to annex Greenland, your side might think about addressing a few actual ballot-box issues. With no one else to blame now, those "eyes of the public" are closely watching. Tick tock, tough guy.
 
Captain Insecure showed an unfamiliarity with gameplay needed to get a character to that level. Must be odd to be the richest man in the world and have no self esteem.

Diablo IV is a game for children. Let’s see him try to speedrun Path of Exile 2.
 
“So many life lessons to be learned from speedrunning video games on max difficulty,” Musk wrote on his social-media platform X on Nov. 20,
This is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've read all year. And yes, that's not all that long, but it's been an exceptionally stupid year. This year is going to be the El Nino of stupidity. It's going to be the stupidest year on record. The only thing climbing faster than mean global temperature is average American stupidity.
 
There is little to no strategic benefit having Greenland controlled by us vs. a NATO ally. We already have an AF base there.

This stunt does provide cover for Russia's and China's aspirations. Georgia and Taiwan are now in play much sooner than if he had kept his mouth shut. Soft power isn't the opposite of hard power. Soft power is the opposite of strategic debacle...
So, are you suggesting that as (a) Russia reassembles the Soviet Empire and (b) China asserts control over its wayward province (where 90% of the world's most advanced semiconductor chips are made), St. Donald of Mar-a-Lago will, instead of condemning/opposing these action will instead respond by seizing Greenland and the Panama Canal? That would really show the Chinese and Russians who's boss. Or maybe just confirm who's Putin's (female dog.)
 
At least Musk's attempt to dictate policy for the UK government by forcing a national inquiry of a sex-abuse scandal resolved years ago was a total flop
Largely because the British, unlike us, seem to have learned something of a lesson with Boris Johnson in charge and voted the Tories out in a landslide last year. It would appear that our incoming government and media system is far more vulnerable and pliable for someone like Musk to play with.
 


Before he even takes office, Trump has managed to convince politicians all over the world that their best political posture is to at least feign defiance of Trump and US policy (a lot are feckless or merely powerless against US pressure and will cave when the time comes).

Stupid politics.
 

Every Canadian needs to pay attention to this bit of American history. In one treaty, the U.S. annexed the present-day states of California, Nevada, Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Colorado, Oklahoma, Kansas and Wyoming. It subsequently illegally invaded Indigenous territory in the west.


Read more: White U.S. citizens once flooded into Indian Territory, prompting calls for mass deportations


Canada could be next — perhaps not immediately as the 51st state, but quite possibly as a U.S. territory that would deny Canadians any voting rights for Congress or the presidency, allow only some autonomy and make questions of citizenship ambiguous. The constitutional architecture exists in the U.S. to make it happen.


Impossible? Unthinkable? Many pundits dismiss Trump’s bellicose rhetoric as hot-headed bargaining. It’s just tough talk, they say. Some have argued his bluster is simply part of his favoured “art of the deal” negotiating tactics.

That’s the wrong reading. How Trump could make good on the threat can be found in the U.S. Constitution. There is both potential and precedent for the U.S. to acquire territory through cession or subjugation.

Invading Canada​

The War Plan Red of 1930 was also drummed up by the U.S. Department of War on how to invade Canada if ever needed.

It included shocking details about kicking off the attack in Halifax with poison gas, quickly invading New Brunswick and then occupying Québec City and Montréal before claiming Niagara Falls.

Historically, America has made many Canadian leaders nervous. Queen Victoria felt that Ottawa, as a capital, would be sheltered from U.S. invasions. John A. Macdonald worried about Union forces attacks on Canada, as U.S. Confederacy spies and raiders were permitted to hole up in Montréal during the civil war.

In the 1911 election, when the Liberal party pushed for free trade with the U.S., they were shown the door by a wave of anti-American sentiment that backed Robert Borden’s Conservatives.

Treaties and congressional green lights​

Hypothetical paranoia aside, the ability of the U.S. to acquire territories is ingrained in the U.S. Constitution. It is straightforward. First, start with Article II, Section 2 of the constitution:

“He [The President] shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur…”.
Treaties are the tools the U.S. uses to take “nothing by conquest” after the Senate ratifies those treaties by a two-thirds majority.

In 1848, President Zachary Taylor proposed the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo to Congress to annex Mexican lands. Even though some wanted to take all of Mexico, Congress ratified the treaty.

In 1898, Congress passed House Joint Resolution 259. It ratified President William McKinley’s treaty of the annexation of Hawaii. Due to protest, petition and dissent, it took 60 years for Hawaii to become an official state in 1957.

The American origin story of a country born in revolution only applies to a small piece of the country. The rest of the place came to exist through annexation. The U.S. expanded to 50 states and 14 overseas territories through a mix of cession, occupation and purchase.
 
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