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Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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nycfan said:




Hostile takeover of the Federal Government by the Technoligarchs is underway.
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I worked for one of Marc Andreesen’s companies, LoudCloud. Founders were Andreesen, Ben Horowitz, Tim Howes (helped create LDAP), and In Sik Rhee.

I was in sales in the New York office. Our regional VP said she’d fire us if we sold a deal to a dot.com. We signed some good Fortune 500 companies. Not enough.

Andreesen was still mostly the fat, anti-social computer geek he’d been since before Netscape. Ben was sharp; but, goofy - ALL of the Silicon Valley conference rooms were named after rap stars. Tim Howes was sharp as hell and great with clients, customers, and prospects. In Sik - he wanted to be in front of customers; one couldn’t let him meet with customers or prospects.

Andreesen was getting fit. He had consultants who helped him dress and speak. Kudos to him - he knew his weaknesses and was trying to fix them.

He was a draw to some prospects (he was still the Internet wunderkind to some). He was not good in front of Fortune 500 executives.

I’m not surprised that he’s a TechBroligarch.

I’m not surprised he’s a whiny-as-hell billionaire.
 
The influx of tech folks Imost with good intentions but not all( is not new. Visitor logs during Prez obama term had Google officals as top visitors. They set up tje US Digital Service and "fixed" the ACA web site after its disastrpis debut. That is where they can be most useful.

Of course back then, they came to assist, not to take over govt amd take over the US check disbirsing system as Musk has tried to dp.

Ypi can't rum the federal govt like Silicon Valley. Completely different purposes and you need far more checks and balances in tt. You cannot award a gpvt cpmtract on a whim as you can do in the private sector. Conflict of interst rules are corrently far more strict in the federal government.
 
mpaer said:
The buyout stuff can be pretty effective at convincing folks that have full retirement earned and just had counted on doing their jobs 2,3,4 more years. MCcroy did it and gutted a lot of expert and Manager level folks
I got my 8 month buyout
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Nobody believes they’ll actually be paid. Tendering your resignation removes most of your civil service protections.
 
As a member of Congress noted in an interview the other day, you can'' do a federal govt buyour like a Twitter buyout. You can;t promise govt money for any purpose until it has been authorized, obligated and with a budget line. Otherwise, you would have chaos and rampant lack of accountability, fraud and favoritism to cronies or friends. These rules exist for a good rason and there are ways to do emergency spending when needed, which a buyout is definitely not.
 
UNCBAdookJD said:
Nobody believes they’ll actually be paid. Tendering your resignation removes most of your civil service protections.
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That is my concern. It would be perfect in my situation as our townhouse is on the market and I will be moving back to NC when it sells. I'm expecting a big pay cut when i move back, just like when I moved back in 2019. My townhouse mortgage is quite high and I cannot afford to leave my job until it sells, especially with my wife having knee surgery in a couple weeks. Fortunately I have acquired enough sick leave hours to put toward FMLA leave to help her for 4 weeks. She moved back early last fall and wants me in NC full time. If I took the early resignation offer, I could collect my salary(minus the night differential) and move back to NC and take some time off and eventually start a new job.
 
Zoo_View said:
I worked for one of Marc Andreesen’s companies, LoudCloud. Founders were Andreesen, Ben Horowitz, Tim Howes (helped create LDAP), and In Sik Rhee.

I was in sales in the New York office. Our regional VP said she’d fire us if we sold a deal to a dot.com. We signed some good Fortune 500 companies. Not enough.

Andreesen was still mostly the fat, anti-social computer geek he’d been since before Netscape. Ben was sharp; but, goofy - ALL of the Silicon Valley conference rooms were named after rap stars. Tim Howes was sharp as hell and great with clients, customers, and prospects. In Sik - he wanted to be in front of customers; one couldn’t let him meet with customers or prospects.

Andreesen was getting fit. He had consultants who helped him dress and speak. Kudos to him - he knew his weaknesses and was trying to fix them.

He was a draw to some prospects (he was still the Internet wunderkind to some). He was not good in front of Fortune 500 executives.

I’m not surprised that he’s a TechBroligarch.

I’m not surprised he’s a whiny-as-hell billionaire.
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Did you see his interview with Ross Douthat? Whiny elevated to an ethos.
 
altmin said:
Speaking of your avatar, I'd sell any stock one has in American car companies, once the Canadian reprisal tariffs kick in.

United States Exports to Canada - 2025 Data 2026 Forecast 1991-2024 Historical

United States Exports to Canada was US$348.41 Billion during 2024, according to the United Nations COMTRADE database on international trade. United States Exports to Canada - data, historical chart and statistics - was last updated on June of 2025.
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Ford is particularly at risk here.
 
JCTarheel82 said:
Economists must be pulling their hair out watching a know-nothing halfwit like Trump extol the value of tariffs. Dude seems hellbent on wrecking the strong economy he inherited and most of his supporters are too ignorant to understand the economic FAFO barreling their way.
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No. Trump got an economics degree from Penn. And that means he must know what he is doing.

Or so it’s been said on these boards.
 
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