Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

[Shenanigans]

Jesus Christ was woke.

Maybe brown Jesus, but super white gun-loving Jesus hates gays and owns a pontoon boat, with a trump flag that says "No More Bullshit, make America great again like 1864"

 

[Carolina Fever]

Maybe if they don't abide by the court there needs to be a coup.

 

[Geisterfahrer]

"As someone that appears to understand the need for checks and balances, and accountability, you cant really be ok with him completely ignoring the guard rails in place to keep the US from becoming a dictatorship, correct?"

Correct that I'm not in favor of a dictator regardless on any party affiliation (fully support 2 term limit for potus) and believe very strongly in checks and balances including not eliminating the filibuster.

In your mind, how does the filibuster embody checks and balances.

 

[Geisterfahrer]

That's not what he said. Context matters. He said "legitimate power"

Who is the ultimate arbiter of what constitutes legitimate executive power?

 

[4thgenheel]

Maybe if they don't abide by the court there needs to be a coup.

 

[finesse]

Maybe if they don't abide by the court there needs to be a coup.

Seems like, in that case, it would be a countercoup.

 

[nycfan]

So, are you against individual liberties? People being free to be who they are? (I'm not talking about pedophiles here)

How are we really a free country, if the liberties we have change based on the party that's in power? We are not truly free if we are making laws and policies that specifically limit medical freedom, freedom to love who one wants, freedom to be who we are and live our best lives.

Call me woke, I don't care. I am for individual freedoms. I'm for a real free country, where everything from the marriage pulpit to the bedroom are regulated.

Folks, can we move these debates to another thread and leave this one to its originally intended topic?

 

[evrheel]

Speaking of cutting waste, trump just signed an order withdrawing from WHO.

Terrible decision made because Trump has to blame someone for his previous failures
There are those who work to fix the problem and then there are those who just want to affix the blame

And oh yeah

The World Health Organization (WHO) is guided by values that include integrity, professionalism, and respect for diversity.

These values are based on the principles of human rights, equity, and universality

 

[superrific]

I don't know.....the border towns, that are actually flooded by migrants and have been for decades, figure it out and I suspect they aren't using a lot hotels because the towns often aren't the type that would have lots of hotels in the first place.

Hmm. Can you think of a difference between rural Texas and New York City? Anything that might make it harder for one of them to find space than the other?

 

[evrheel]

That's not what he said. Context matters. He said "legitimate power"

Does he have any kind of power other than legitimate power?

Not exactly redundant but with my background it reminds me of 3 equations and 2 unknowns - over determined

 

[UNCatTech]

Folks, can we move these debates to another thread and leave this one to its originally intended topic?

 

[ZenMode]

Folks, can we move these debates to another thread and leave this one to its originally intended topic?

 

[Carolina Fever]

Seems like, in that case, it would be a countercoup.

Exactly.

 

[farce©]

The decision to put them up in expensive hotels in NYC isn't the fault of Desantis or Abbott. I support the decision to bus them because it brought the issue to the forefront.

Plus, Kathy Hochul loves immigrants. Abbott and Desantis were just making her wishes come true.

Of course you support the decision. At least you’ve dropped the bosider bullshit and come out of the closet as full blown MAGA.

 

[ZenMode]

Of course you support the decision. At least you’ve dropped the bosider bullshit and come out of the closet as full blown MAGA.

Being able to see both sides on many topics doesn't mean I don't sometimes take a side on specific topics.

For example, I can recognize the need for some number of Mexican immigrants to do to specific jobs, while still recognizing the stupidity of having a largely open border that has allowed millions upon millions of illegals into the country.

Northern Democrats, sitting in their ivory towers, sipping their Malbec and saying how much they loooooove migrants, while conservative southern states bear the brunt of migration, is why I support bussing migrants to NYC and other liberal cities/locations.

 

[CFordUNC]

Being able to see both sides on many topics doesn't mean I don't sometimes take a side on specific topics.

For example, I can recognize the need for some number of Mexican immigrants to do to specific jobs, while still recognizing the stupidity of having a largely open border that has allowed millions upon millions of illegals into the country.

Northern Democrats, sitting in their ivory towers, sipping their Malbec and saying how much they loooooove migrants, while conservative southern states bear the brunt of migration, is why I support bussing migrants to NYC and other liberal cities/locations.

We’ve always had a “largely open border.” The border is the exact same as it has always been under every single presidential administration. There are patrolled ports of entry and there are thousands upon thousands of miles of unpatrolled land where people who are desperate enough to cross over rivers or other rough terrain often gain illegal entry in the United States. Short of literally building some sort of mythical impenetrable fortress wall along 100% of the border, we’re never going to be able to stop 100% of illegal immigration. What we *can* do, and what I support wholeheartedly, is robust reinforcement of our border security through beefed up border patrol personnel, beefed up technological infrastructure, strict policies on apprehension and expulsion- you know, exactly like the bipartisan border bill created by Republican Senator Jim Lankford. That bill was a fantastic start. I’m more than happy to spend whatever money we need, and allocate whatever resources and personnel we need, to secure the border as best we can. I’m happy to spend whatever money we need and allocate whatever resources and personnel we need, to detain and expel migrants who commit crimes here in the U.S. I think we should allocate whatever money and whatever resources we need to make our system of legal immigration more efficient. But we’ve always had a “largely open border” and we will always have a “largely open border” unless you think that spending tons of taxpayer money and tons of military manpower to literally secure thousands of miles of empty border land is a good use of resources.

 

[Enigma94]

The number of undocumented immigrants is roughly the same today as it was at the end of George W’s presidency.

 

[finesse]

I might as well ask this for, I don't know, maybe the 20th time. Name the wave of immigration that has ever hurt the US in the long run or even really, short term. For the benefit of us all, try to support your claims with something outside of opinion polls. Zenophobia just doesn't count.

 

[WaynetheDrain]

Keep going, Elon. This is insane.

You are such a gullible mark.

Elon Musk was created for simpletons like you.

 

[wmheel1287]

That's not what he said. Context matters. He said "legitimate power"

That context makes the statement worse, not better. It is precisely the role of the courts to determine the legitimate power of both Congress and the Executive. It is the role of the the Executive to appoint candidates for the judiciary. It is the role of Congress to approve of those candidates for the judiciary.