Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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ChapelHillSooner said:
Nobody is assuming there is no fraud. Fraud has always existed and to some extent will always exist.

There are also far more capable procedures already in place to find and root out fraud. It isn’t a battle you just win. It is and will always be a constant battle.

Most importantly, the two fraudsters you have put in charge aren’t interested in rooting out fraud. In fact they are removing all of the checks that exist. Instead they are interested in perpetuating their own fraud and DOGE is just a propaganda campaign to give them cover to do it.
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There isn't capable procedures in place, hence the mess the govt is in. What fraud is taking place thus far in this administration??
 
Mulberry Heel said:
That's what is so crazy about all this. By arming Ukraine we were helping to bleed the Russian military dry and hurting Putin without sacrificing anything ourselves, other than the money we were spending to supply Ukraine with weapons. For us it was a win-win situation. And now Trump is going to screw it all up because he's a Putin and dictator fanboy and wants to help him out. Again, it's crazy time in US foreign policy, even more so than it was in his first term. Kiss up to our enemies and rivals and piss off all of our allies to the maximum degree possible. And this time it will likely take years to fix the damage, if that will even be possible.
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There is something our trumpers need to address for us. Trump is making it crystal clear that America under him can’t be trusted. Trust is a hard thing to get. It is easy to lose. It is almost impossible to regain. We have been the leader of the free world for 80 years now. But now, none of our allies will ever be able to trust us again. They will not look to us for leadership. We are threatening our nearest allies and giving assurances to our enemies. WTF trumpers? Your man is destroying in a few short weeks what it took our presidents from FDR to Biden 80 years to build. Unfucking believable.
 
superrific said:
What's the basis for this claim? Compare Kamala's preparation in foreign policy to the following presidents prior to them taking office:

Trump
Obama
GWB
Clinton

A couple of them did pretty well on foreign policy. Bush 41 had extensive foreign policy experience. I can't remember whether Reagan did or not.
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Reagan had ZERO. Kinda makes your point I would think.
 
Patb78 said:
There is something our trumpers need to address for us. Trump is making it crystal clear that America under him can’t be trusted. Trust is a hard thing to get. It is easy to lose. It is almost impossible to regain. We have been the leader of the free world for 80 years now. But now, none of our allies will ever be able to trust us again. They will not look to us for leadership. We are threatening our nearest allies and giving assurances to our enemies. WTF trumpers? Your man is destroying in a few short weeks what it took our presidents from FDR to Biden 80 years to build. Unfucking believable.
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To dovetails your Trumpers ask: I've always thought American engagement in the world has tremendous economic benefits for us. At least that was the argument Conservative Republicans used to argue. They need to explain how our pulling back is not going to hurt our economy?
 
Milk and Cookies said:
Consumption growth that outpaced peers (was worst among peers under Trump 1.0)
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Strong labor force participation (and big relative improvement from Trump 1.0)
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Impressive relative inflation reduction (after Trump 1.0 had us leading the pack by the end of his term)
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Outstanding attraction of capital investment
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great poast.
 
Why are rangers at our National Parks being fired? Pitiful. Already understaffed and over worked. I get it, private enterprise can be good but the government should contribute to parks, museums, libraries and such.
 
Batt Boy said:
Why are rangers at our National Parks being fired? Pitiful. Already understaffed and over worked. I get it, private enterprise can be good but the government should contribute to parks, museums, libraries and such.
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How often do you think Musk or Trump ever visits a national park? I think that's your answer. I doubt Trump has even set foot in one his entire life.
 
There's no way Elon fathered all those kids. You know he pays people to level up his video game characters? Yeah, I don't think that's the only thing he's been paying for.
 
Personally, I’m fine with Musk fathering a lot of US citizens. Imagine the average IQ of the bunch. Plus, he can afford ‘em.
 
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