Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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WaynetheDrain said:
This shows how fucking disingenuous you people are.

Definitely a bipartisan issue, yet only Donald Trump's personal unelected campaign donor oligarch and a bunch of 18 year old tech bros are the ones making the determination? Where is the bipartisanship?

Exposing inefficiency, yet the "department" responsible for pulling back that veil is not subject to the same transparency? We're just supposed to take Elon Musk's word for it, despite the fact that he's already been exposed as a liar, and even admitted that not everything he says is true? This is Gestapo-level shit, only using misinformation instead of violence.

USAID, Department of Education, Department of Labor...etc. The Project 2025 playbook come to life. Except for human shit stains like yourself, that's a feature, not a bug.
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You sound like Maxine Waters etc. What are you hiding?
 
Callatoroy said:
I’m saying world leaders are “respected or feared” such that you don’t have 2 allies invaded by enemies unless they don’t respect and fear that leadership and sense weakness. I don’t think the Biden / Harris team projected strength, do you? I also think China’s role as a world leader and influencer grew while ours shrunk.
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Personally I think Putin expected Biden to behave like Obama did in 2014. No way he expected Biden and the euros to support Ukraine as strongly as they did. And I think in now way did he imagine for the war in Ukraine to become a quagmire.
 
CRHeel94 said:
Personally I think Putin expected Biden to behave like Obama did in 2014. No way he expected Biden and the euros to support Ukraine as strongly as they did. And I think in now way did he imagine for the war in Ukraine to become a quagmire.
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I agree. Putin committed the most egregious error someone launching a war can commit. He overestimated his country’s abilities and underestimated his enemy’s. That is why he’s in the mess he’s in now.
 
HandsonFire said:
Which means MAGAts are being deceived. Shocking I know from the crowd that if Trump and Musk shit and pissed in a bucket they would shower in it and tell you how clean they are.
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Exactly. MAGAs are begging to be deceived. It is the definition of confirmation bias. They want to believe it so badly their brains won’t permit them to be skeptical of obvious bullshit.
 
Callatoroy said:
Wait, we were going to lead the world with Kamala as president? Are you saying you believe she is smart enough, experienced enough, respected enough, and tough enough to be the world’s leader? She would out smart and out maneuver Putin and Xi? Is that correct or did I put words in your mouth?
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Kamal was woefully unprepared foreign policy and would have struggled to project strength. However, I have little doubt she would have been able to put competent people in place in the crucial cabinet positions. And even with her shortcomings she would have been a better option than Trump.

Trump years for the days of isolationism. It's not just putting AmericaFirst...it should really be America Only. Everything is a win-lose transaction. He did more damage to NATO in his first term than the Russians could ever hope to do (that's why Putin never moved an inch). In this term we will see the end of NATO and the world will become a much more dangerous place.
 
CRHeel94 said:
Personally I think Putin expected Biden to behave like Obama did in 2014. No way he expected Biden and the euros to support Ukraine as strongly as they did. And I think in now way did he imagine for the war in Ukraine to become a quagmire.
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There was ample evidence he expected Ukraine to fold within weeks. IIRC, there were reports that many of the Russian officers brought full dress regalia with them in anticipation of a parade through Kyiv.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
Flippant response about our country turning into a 3rd World cesspool.

You braindead cucks let Trump and Musk bukkake all over your faces, and you wipe your chin and ask for seconds.

You're fucking pathetic.
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Wayne, the gift that keeps on giving. You're just another prime example of why the dem party is flailing in the wind. Its ok to recognize the fraud DOGE is presenting. You're a taxpayer too. I see the left only offers hate and dismisses govt waste and fraud every chance they get.
 
Silence Dogood said:
Wayne, the gift that keeps on giving. You're just another prime example of why the dem party is flailing in the wind. Its ok to recognize the fraud DOGE is presenting. You're a taxpayer too. I see the left only offers hate and dismisses govt waste and fraud every chance they get.
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DOGE is definitely presenting itself as a fraud.

Fwiw, I'd rather dismiss waste and fraud (which, needless to say, I don't) than to elect it president.
 
nycfan said:

3 men claiming to be from DOGE show up at San Francisco City Hall, demand records​


www.cbsnews.com

3 men claiming to be from DOGE show up at San Francisco City Hall, demand records

San Francisco city officials are investigating after three men who claimed to be from the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) showed up at City Hall on Friday demanding records from offices before fleeing.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com

[Sounds like DOGE wannabes/dopey would-be criminals or trolls — SF officials refused their demands and eventually they left]
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They should have printed up fake DOGE employee IDs. It’s not like there’s a real DOGE ID to compare it to.
 
Silence Dogood said:
Wayne, the gift that keeps on giving. You're just another prime example of why the dem party is flailing in the wind. Its ok to recognize the fraud DOGE is presenting. You're a taxpayer too. I see the left only offers hate and dismisses govt waste and fraud every chance they get.
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They've presented no fraud. And they've presented no evidence of fraud. And the reason they've presented no evidence is because they don't have to. They aren't required to be transparent with the American public. They just say stuff, and you swallow it whole. It's obvious you aren't the brightest bulb in the closet, but what little capacity you've ever had for logic and critical thinking has been poisoned by too many hours on X soaking up Elon Musk's misinformation highway. You're the type of ignorant mark that con men like Donald Trump and Elon Musk have been exploiting their entire careers.
 
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His whole strategy the last year or so was to run out the clock on Western democracies. The electorate in those countries was not going to support a perpetual war...even if its pennies on the dollar standing up to the Russians in Ukraine than elsewhere.

And while I'm bitching about things...the Germans going off nuclear was so incredibly stupid.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
They've presented no fraud. And they've presented no evidence of fraud. And the reason they've presented no evidence is because they don't have to. They aren't required to be transparent with the American public. They just say stuff, and you swallow it whole. It's obvious you aren't the brightest bulb in the closet, but what little capacity you've ever had for logic and critical thinking has been poisoned by too many hours on X soaking up Elon Musk's misinformation highway. You're the type of ignorant mark that con men like Donald Trump and Elon Musk have been exploiting their entire careers.
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The problem with your rationale is you're assuming there is no fraud and the govt is doing everything effectively and efficiently.
 
Just learned that a good friend of mind has been laid off from a job she loved because it was connected to USAID. She's devastated, and there is no good reason for her to lose that job, or for any of these people to lose their jobs. And unfortunately I'm sure that she won't be the last person I know personally who will lose their job and perhaps career (and maybe even more) because of this insanity and idiocy and pure greed. And that's all any of this is. Just infuriating to see good, hard-working, and competent people getting hurt because of the insanity and chaos that is Trump 2.0. But I guess the cruelty is the point, as others have noted.
 
Silence Dogood said:
The problem with your rationale is you're assuming there is no fraud and the govt is doing everything effectively and efficiently.
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So the way to fix that is to literally gut the government and abolish whole departments and agencies that have existed and done good work for decades, and fire millions of government workers and cut off vital research funding for things like cancer and vaccine research? I'm sorry but that's insane and wildly impractical. It's like cutting off an entire arm to get rid of a hangnail.
 
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