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CharmCityTiger said:
Let’s just hope China focuses their retaliatory tariffs on red states like Canada said they would.
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Can China manage that level of targeting when their exports are a bunch of cheaply produced goods, sold to mass distributors like Amazon and Walmart?
 


“… Written by Emil Bove, the acting deputy attorney general, the memo also says the department will return to the principle of charging defendants with the most serious crime it can prove, a staple position of Republican-led departments meant to remove a prosecutor’s discretion to charge a lower-level offense.

Much of the memo is centered on immigration enforcement. Bove wrote that prosecutors shall “take all steps necessary to protect the public and secure the American border by removing illegal aliens from the country and prosecuting illegal aliens for crimes” committed in U.S. jurisdiction.

The memo also suggests state and local officials who stand in the way of federal immigration enforcement could themselves come under scrutiny. It directs prosecutors to investigate any episodes in which state and local officials obstruct or impede federal functions. …”
 
nycfan said:


“… Written by Emil Bove, the acting deputy attorney general, the memo also says the department will return to the principle of charging defendants with the most serious crime it can prove, a staple position of Republican-led departments meant to remove a prosecutor’s discretion to charge a lower-level offense.

Much of the memo is centered on immigration enforcement. Bove wrote that prosecutors shall “take all steps necessary to protect the public and secure the American border by removing illegal aliens from the country and prosecuting illegal aliens for crimes” committed in U.S. jurisdiction.

The memo also suggests state and local officials who stand in the way of federal immigration enforcement could themselves come under scrutiny. It directs prosecutors to investigate any episodes in which state and local officials obstruct or impede federal functions. …”
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Homan has stated repeatedly he looks forward to sending local officials to jail. He (and Trump based on retweets) are eager for the opportunity to charge and jail local government officials from Blue states and cities. They clearly want to engineer an opportunity…
 
Healing said:
1. They don’t have an army
2. They don’t have the will or an army
3. Not real, unless you’re speaking metaphorically about age and entropy, and if real, it appears it wants things this way
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My point is that no branch will stand up to POTUS.

And, right-wing Christo-nationalism won’t.
 
nycfan said:

Trump Says He Intends to Impose 10% Tariffs on Chinese Imports on Feb. 1​

The president said the planned duties were a response to China’s failure to curb fentanyl exports.

www.nytimes.com

Trump Says He Intends to Impose 10% Tariffs on Chinese Imports on Feb. 1

The president said the planned duties were a response to China’s failure to curb fentanyl exports.
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“… Speaking at the White House, Mr. Trump said that the tariffs were in response to China’s role in America’s fentanyl crisis. Mr. Trump said that China was sending fentanyl to Canada and Mexico, from where it would be transported into the United States.

The tariff threat comes after Mr. Trump said on Monday that he planned to impose a 25 percent duty on imports from Canada and Mexico as punishment for allowing fentanyl and illegal immigrants to cross into the United States.

“We’re talking about a tariff of 10 percent on China based on the fact that they’re sending fentanyl to Mexico and Canada,” Mr. Trump said. …”
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But 25% on our closest ally. Makes sense.
 
Healing said:
Can China manage that level of targeting when their exports are a bunch of cheaply produced goods, sold to mass distributors like Amazon and Walmart?
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I am not sure what China brings in from the US, but they can for sure kick American companies out of their market unilaterally. Also they have a habit of arresting executives from countries they are pissed at. Just ask the several Canadian businessmen who entered the Chinese legal system in the last five years.
 
As should be expected, Trump talked out of his ass to win and is now changing direction.

Does anyone have an issue (bolded), in principle, with what is being done?

Homan added that the Trump administration had to “reevaluate” its strategy over “officers’ safety concerns” after its plans to go after illegal immigrants in Chicago were leaked. The border czar said the concerns have been addressed and ICE agents are working toward Trump’s deportation goals “today.”

“ICE officers throughout the country were told today, ‘Go make arrests of those here illegally that have a public safety threat.’ So they’ve developed target sheets, an operational plan to go out in the field … so they’re out there right now looking for the most serious public safety threats throughout the country,” Homan said.
Homan added that there are over 700,000 illegal immigrants with criminal records currently walking free in the U.S.

“That’s who we’re looking for right now,” he said.
 
ZenMode said:
As should be expected, Trump talked out of his ass to win and is now changing direction.

Does anyone have an issue (bolded), in principle, with what is being done?

Homan added that the Trump administration had to “reevaluate” its strategy over “officers’ safety concerns” after its plans to go after illegal immigrants in Chicago were leaked. The border czar said the concerns have been addressed and ICE agents are working toward Trump’s deportation goals “today.”

“ICE officers throughout the country were told today, ‘Go make arrests of those here illegally that have a public safety threat.’ So they’ve developed target sheets, an operational plan to go out in the field … so they’re out there right now looking for the most serious public safety threats throughout the country,” Homan said.
Homan added that there are over 700,000 illegal immigrants with criminal records currently walking free in the U.S.

“That’s who we’re looking for right now,” he said.
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They were leaked because he blurted it out at a party.

I have zero concern about targeting/seeking out immigrants with criminal charges for violent crime , drug dealing and felony property crime. I supported that approach in the prior administration as well. Not sure if the 700,000 includes people “walking free” in prison(?) but if it does seems better to leave them in prison for their sentence than free them early by deporting them.
 
nycfan said:
Don’t disagree but this election has been a good indication that nuance is not a thing in American politics at the moment. How are people going to react to a flood of similar visuals?

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The people who are in favor of the deportation policy will never see these visuals.
 
JCTarheel82 said:
Funny how Pubs are always screeching about America's sovereignty in various contexts but then are like "Let's take Greenland" or "We should annex Canada." They have zero respect for the sovereignty of other nations. Situational ethics and morality as always with the GQP.
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So it’s pubs doing that? Or 1 pub? Because of all the things you guys bitch about pubs on here I don’t recall wanting to expand the empire or conquering other nations being in the top 100. But because trump made his comments and one dumbass gets on the news you, in full bloom TDS, make up some bullshit about pubs wanting to take other countries because you know whatever shit you throw against the wall will stick here. So, in summary, you are just mindlessly spouting bullshit.
www.usatoday.com

What do Americans think of Trump's plans to acquire Greenland? Half say it's a bad idea.

A new USA TODAY/Suffolk University found a little more than half of Americans don't support Donald Trump's proposal to acquire Greenland.
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My opinion - if trump can acquire Greenland peacefully, in good faith, and with the majority support of those living there then I say hell yes. Do you disagree with that? If yes and it happened would you credit trump with that move?
 
Callatoroy said:
My opinion - if trump can acquire Greenland peacefully, in good faith, and with the majority support of those living there then I say hell yes. Do you disagree with that? If yes and it happened would you credit trump with that move?
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100% disagree with that. First, Denmark is a core ally - we can achieve strategically whatever we need to achieve under the current NATO umbrella - the only reason we are interested in Greenland is national ego. Second, US participation in a free-for-all in which national borders are disregarded is a significant disruption to the global stability that we haven't seen in a nuclear age. God help us manage the nuclear proliferation issues over the next 50 years when most of East Asia and the Middle East become nuclear powers.

The cost of war is significantly higher than in Metternich's day. Moving on Greenland will be a strategic debacle. The nitwittedness of those who want to blow up the post-WW2 international order is breathtaking.
 
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