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Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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dcphx said:
The problem is that Stephen Miller seems to believe that the proper number of legal immigrants to the United States per year should be zero.
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I'll never forget Miller proclaiming that "America is for Americans and Americans only!!" when MAGA was mainlining racism and xenophobia at Trump's MSG rally. That line really caught me off guard and I'm rarely surprised by anything the GQP does these days.
 
MendotoManteo said:
If you took out all the extracurricular, so to speak, about Hegseth, he would still be unqualified.

Trump wants a "disruptor," however. Americans do too, given they voted for Trump.

We'll certainly get a disruptor.
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This is the part that just kills me. If he was the nicest guy, with the squeakiest clean reputation, he does not have the qualifications to do that job. It is mindboggling to me.
 
Saw an interview with Tammy Duckworth. Same thought process. Without the personal character issues, he’s still not remotely qualified. She voted for both of Trump’s nominations for Defense Secretary his first term because they were qualified for the position.
 
When the cabinet nominations started rolling out - I was shocked and terrified...but after reflection I agree that Trump should have "his" cabinet. The guardrails, corner covers, baby gates - whatever euphemism you want to use - may have ultimately inflicted more harm than good. Trump should have "his" cabinet so the country can see "his" vision in full display. There will be long term ramifications - but we have to reverse course here - and that isn't likely to happen with a "normal" cabinet.
 
p5mmr9 said:
When the cabinet nominations started rolling out - I was shocked and terrified...but after reflection I agree that Trump should have "his" cabinet. The guardrails, corner covers, baby gates - whatever euphemism you want to use - may have ultimately inflicted more harm than good. Trump should have "his" cabinet so the country can see "his" vision in full display. There will be long term ramifications - but we have to reverse course here - and that isn't likely to happen with a "normal" cabinet.
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The problem is— as you said— there will be long term ramifications. I’m not so sure there will be many noticeable short term ramifications. So the average American probably doesn’t even realize that those ramifications that emerge down the line were a result of Trump’s actions. They’ll blame whoever is in power at the time and assume a Trump-like figure can fix it.
 
Icky Mettle said:
The problem is— as you said— there will be long term ramifications. I’m not so sure there will be many noticeable short term ramifications. So the average American probably doesn’t even realize that those ramifications that emerge down the line were a result of Trump’s actions. They’ll blame whoever is in power at the time and assume a Trump-like figure can fix it.
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I am fairly certain if the army started shooting protesters as Trump wanted them to do in 2020 that these would be viewed with "noticeable short term ramifications."
Trump did pay a political price for Covid. How would his government handle a new pandemic while being out of the WHO and with RFK Jr and Dr Oz handling federal government health care oversight?
What about launching tactical nukes? Or invading Panama? Or launching air strikes against targets in Mexico?
What about putting Cheney in front of a "firing squad" - as he said during the campaign he thought warranted?
What about a major inflation spike due to all of his beautiful tariffs?
"it's just talk and bluster" - ok.
 
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The immigrant crackdown has begun. Its first target might surprise you.​

Trump is not just going after foreigners who break the law.

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"Given the context, Trump seems poised to exercise this authority as part of his trade wars (against Chinese nationals in the United States, for example). Some have speculated that he’ll deploy it against people from the European Union and other countries that have agreed to a global minimum tax on multinational corporations. To be clear, this agreement was brokered by the United States — at least until Trump pulled out of it a few days ago. If Trump is reckless enough, his executive order will empower him to double taxes on every random British, Japanese or Canadian national (or, for that matter, Americans who have dual citizenship with such countries) working lawfully here."
 
“Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.”
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-Jean-Paul Sartre
 
altmin said:

Canadian, Mexican steel mills refusing US orders.
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I’m not sure I believe that the American steel company owner is just going to accept tariffs on steel from his newly acquired Canadian steel company because MAGA, but it is what he says. I suspect by accept it, he means lobby hard to get exemptions for import of steel from an American owned steel mill in Canada — which might make sense depending on the intent of the tariff.

Is it to force more jobs into the USA or punish Canada for some policy?
 
nycfan said:
I’m not sure I believe that the American steel company owner is just going to accept tariffs on steel from his newly acquired Canadian steel company because MAGA, but it is what he says. I suspect by accept it, he means lobby hard to get exemptions for import of steel from an American owned steel mill in Canada — which might make sense depending on the intent of the tariff.

Is it to force more jobs into the USA or punish Canada for some policy?
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I admire that you think there's a coherent strategy with these tariffs.
 
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