Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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I would look for Canada to start with high tariffs on good from red states.

Have no idea how Mexico will respond.
 
Interestingly, there are provisions in the NAFTA that allow companies to sue governments when violations of NAFTA inhibit their investments. So in addition to all the tariff costs, I would imagine the government will be paying out billions to private companies. I've not heard that reported anywhere, so maybe the investor protection provisions of the deal were quietly erased sometime in the past two decades. But perhaps everyone is just too overwhelmed.
 
NAFTA 2.0 was actually a pretty good treaty. Think it helped both the US and Mexico in eliminating some loopholes that created blindspots. The process to get there was traumatic.
 
CRHeel94 said:
I would look for Canada to start with high tariffs on good from red states.

Have no idea how Mexico will respond.
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Canada is ready. That government isn't run by mooks. It will not only be red states. It will be swing states. And it will be states where there are GOPers up for Senate in 26. Susan Collins, babe, nobody gonna save you now.

I imagine it will be impossible to sell a lobster from the US to Canada
 
There's no way this ends with Elon Musk living in this country. If he tries to stay, he will be killed. Probably executed; vigilante if not. This isn't something I want to see, but that's how the authoritarianism always ends. Trump's family will also have to flee; if they don't I'd imagine Saddam and his kids will have company in hell.
 
superrific said:
There's no way this ends with Elon Musk living in this country. If he tries to stay, he will be killed. Probably executed; vigilante if not. This isn't something I want to see, but that's how the authoritarianism always ends. Trump's family will also have to flee; if they don't I'd imagine Saddam and his kids will have company in hell.
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Hell isn't real.
 
He wil pull his tariffs-before Feb 01-and scream at Canada and Mexico blah blah and manufacture a new crisis the next day
 
Economists must be pulling their hair out watching a know-nothing halfwit like Trump extol the value of tariffs. Dude seems hellbent on wrecking the strong economy he inherited and most of his supporters are too ignorant to understand the economic FAFO barreling their way.
 
CFordUNC said:
It’s insane that they think the U.S. can just hold everyone else hostage with all of tariff bullshit. The world can and will just tell us to fuck off. We don’t provide anything they cant get elsewhere.
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Speaking of your avatar, I'd sell any stock one has in American car companies, once the Canadian reprisal tariffs kick in.

United States Exports to Canada - 2025 Data 2026 Forecast 1991-2024 Historical

United States Exports to Canada was US$348.41 Billion during 2024, according to the United Nations COMTRADE database on international trade. United States Exports to Canada - data, historical chart and statistics - was last updated on June of 2025.
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superrific said:
Canada is ready. That government isn't run by mooks. It will not only be red states. It will be swing states. And it will be states where there are GOPers up for Senate in 26. Susan Collins, babe, nobody gonna save you now.

I imagine it will be impossible to sell a lobster from the US to Canada
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Most of Northern Maine, where a lot of red voters are, gets its electricity from Canada.
 
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