Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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JCTarheel82 said:
Economists must be pulling their hair out watching a know-nothing halfwit like Trump extol the value of tariffs. Dude seems hellbent on wrecking the strong economy he inherited and most of his supporters are too ignorant to understand the economic FAFO barreling their way.
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No. Trump got an economics degree from Penn. And that means he must know what he is doing.

Or so it’s been said on these boards.
 
ChileG said:
No. Trump got an economics degree from Penn. And that means he must know what he is doing.

Or so it’s been said on these boards.
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I find you can learn a lot about a person by what they tell you they don't know. It takes a good bit of confidence and self-reflection and humility to admit you're ignorant about a subject.

Off the top of my head I can only remember two things Trump has said he doesn't know:
  • Him (anyone he's been associated with that did something bad)
  • Her (anyone accusing him of sexual misconduct)
 

Pentagon plans to start migrant flights to Guantanamo this weekend​

This would make good on the president’s promise to use the base as a detainment facility.


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The military has flown eight flights so far — including four to Guatemala, three to Honduras and one to Ecuador — all using military aircraft. But this is the first time migrants would head to the base in Cuba, which presents a unique set of legal and logistical challenges.
Trump issued an executive order Wednesday that instructs the Pentagon and Homeland Security Department to use the base for migrants. Defense officials have been scramblingsince to come up with a plan to house up to 30,000 people, far more than the 780 detainees who stayed in a base detention camp during the peak of the war on terror.

This gives the military another costly, short-notice mission as officials also seek to meet a separate Trump order for more troops at the southern border. …”

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"Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not illegal"

I guess Nixon didn’t have nearly enough imagination about what that could mean for his own power and resisting the Watergate investigation… but it seems Trump and John Roberts did.
 

Prices were a key issue in 2024, but Trump makes clear they're not his top priority​



Trump's promises to bring down the cost of living were a big reason he was elected, but since taking office he has now twice said that's not his top priority.

"They all said inflation was the No. 1 issue," Trump said about the presidential campaign as he spoke to supporters at the Capitol following his inauguration address. "I said, 'I disagree. I think people coming into our country from prisons and from mental institutions is a bigger issue for the people that I know.' And I made it my No. 1. I talked about inflation, too, but you know how many times can you say that an apple has doubled in cost?"

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Again on Monday, Trump reiterated that immigration is the bigger issue.

"I always felt the border was first," he said in a speech to congressional Republicans gathered at Trump National Doral Miami Golf Resort.

"I talked about that much more so than I did inflation," Trump said. "I mean, inflation was terrible. I think it was the worst in the history of our country, but you can only talk about it so long. The price of apples doubled. The price of bacon has quadrupled. Everything is a disaster. And you say it, and then what do you do?"

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Undoubtedly, though, higher than pre-pandemic prices and high interest rates intended to curb inflation put Americans in a bad mood — and is a big reason, if not thereason, Trump won in 2024.

He said so himself.

"I won on the border, and I won on groceries," Trump said on NBC's Meet the Press in his first interview after the election. "When you buy apples, when you buy bacon, when you buy eggs, they would double and triple the price over a short period of time, and I won an election based on that. We're going to bring those prices way down."

… Trump has signed executive orders declaring an energy "crisis" and ordering the executive branch to find ways to cut prices. That included making efforts to deregulate efficiency standards on home appliances — everything from stoves to shower heads to light bulbs.

… Experts are dubious that those initiatives, however, will have an effect on grocery prices.

What's more, Trump has said he will impose 25% tariffs on Canada and Mexico and 10% more tariffs on China, starting this Saturday. Those efforts, experts also warn, could drive the prices of many things people buy — and gas prices — higher. …”
 
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superrific said:
Interestingly, there are provisions in the NAFTA that allow companies to sue governments when violations of NAFTA inhibit their investments. So in addition to all the tariff costs, I would imagine the government will be paying out billions to private companies. I've not heard that reported anywhere, so maybe the investor protection provisions of the deal were quietly erased sometime in the past two decades. But perhaps everyone is just too overwhelmed.
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All part of the plan, bro.
 
nycfan said:

Prices were a key issue in 2024, but Trump makes clear they're not his top priority​



Trump's promises to bring down the cost of living were a big reason he was elected, but since taking office he has now twice said that's not his top priority.

"They all said inflation was the No. 1 issue," Trump said about the presidential campaign as he spoke to supporters at the Capitol following his inauguration address. "I said, 'I disagree. I think people coming into our country from prisons and from mental institutions is a bigger issue for the people that I know.' And I made it my No. 1. I talked about inflation, too, but you know how many times can you say that an apple has doubled in cost?"

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Again on Monday, Trump reiterated that immigration is the bigger issue.

"I always felt the border was first," he said in a speech to congressional Republicans gathered at Trump National Doral Miami Golf Resort.

"I talked about that much more so than I did inflation," Trump said. "I mean, inflation was terrible. I think it was the worst in the history of our country, but you can only talk about it so long. The price of apples doubled. The price of bacon has quadrupled. Everything is a disaster. And you say it, and then what do you do?" …”
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Did he give any specifics for this immigration plan, or is it just, “you fix it or I’ll impose tariffs?”

(rhetorical question, fwiw)
 
Random gripe but do we need the thread titles to have the latest news in them? When reading on mobile, these 3-4 line titles hurt the viewing experience
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
Rubio’s op-ed actually makes a ton of sense.
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LOL. Rubio’s op ed is bootlicking nonsense starting with the “sweeping victory….mandate” introductory paragraph.

Then he goes on to say “Covid exposed the fragility of America’s dependence on far-flung supply chains. Relocating our critical supply chains to the Western Hemisphere would clear a path for our neighbors’ economic growth and safeguard Americans’ own economic security” just a couple of days before Trump imposed ridiculous tariffs on our closest western hemisphere allies.

He then tries to reinforce the bullshit narrative that the “Chinese Communist Party” is actually running the Panama Canal setting up nonsensical justification for Trump’s coming invasion.

“makes a ton of sense.” JFC, how gullible do you have to be to swallow this load of jizz?
 
HintonJamesHeel said:
Tariffs on Mexico and Canada would be a new low for this egomaniac.
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He did it during his first term. Canada retaliated with targeted tariffs and we were at odds for a year until cooler heads prevailed. This time there will be nobody in Felon 47's ear telling him to relent.
 
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