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Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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Paine said:
open.substack.com

Elon Musk is staging a coup.

Elon Musk is staging a coup.
open.substack.com open.substack.com

“If this were Pakistan, Chad, or Venezuela, the headlines wouldn’t hedge: A billionaire oligarch seizes control, dismantling democracy in real time. Musk’s loyalists, armed with executive orders instead of rifles, are gutting the civil service, locking officials out of government systems, and dictating policy from a boardroom-turned-war room. Trump, a fading strongman, is the figurehead; Musk, the junta’s real leader. Treasury, national security, federal agencies—one by one, falling under private rule. In any other country, experts would call it state capture, a textbook coup. Here, the press still asks if democracy is in danger, as if waiting for the moment history makes it undeniable.”
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If this really is a "coup" I kind of hope Musk is running it. Trump's not going to let that go for too long just because his star will diminish.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
If this really is a "coup" I kind of hope Musk is running it. Trump's not going to let that go for too long just because his star will diminish.
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Right now Musk is mostly got a free hand on stuff Trump has vague hatred for but that are outside the scope of things Trump is passionate about (tariffs, immigration, punishing the FBI and DOJ, foreign policy other than USAID dollars to “shit hole” countries).

Musk’s power right now is (a) using his money to threaten primaries against GOP opposition in Congress, (b) using X to promote Trump as a genius and (c) focusing on details that Trump doesn't give a shit about. If Musk grabs the third rail or interferes in Trump’s core focus areas, THEN there could be trouble.

But until then Musk is carving out a huge fiefdom with no oversight or restrictions on his power …
 


[used Detroit Interior site b/c it popped up first]

“… A "special Government employee" (or "SGE") is an officer or employee in the Executive Branch of the Federal Government who is appointed to perform important, but limited, services to the Government, with or without compensation, for a period not to exceed 130 days during any period of 365 consecutive days. This status is important because the ethics rules apply differently to individuals who qualify as SGEs versus other Federal employees and officials….”

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Special Government Employees | U.S. Department of the Interior

Provides information regarding ethics obligations for Special Government Employees, appointed on a temporary or intermittent basis
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aGDevil2k said:
And the GOP just remains mum.

Hey Congress, aren't you in charge of the pocketbook?
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They have relinquished/delegated whatever you want to call it to Trump and his goons. WTF? I’m not surprised most of the Republican Party is spineless and the rest are morons, and then you have the yes men.
 
I can't decide if this is "peace through strength" or "diplomacy through idiocy" but I guess I'll give props for now even though I know it's basically been bullshit political theater all along. I think Trump is an unimaginable moron but I like and cheer for our country and it's success far more than I hate Donald Trump, so whatever keeps the train on the tracks, I reckon.
 
sringwal said:
421.6 billion dollars says that Trump will continue to allow Elon Musk to do as he pleases.
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Maybe. But Trump is almost certainly not going to run for office again and even if he does, he can win without elon's money.

Would not be shocked if Trump is hoping that Elon buys truth social and makes him just a bit richer.
 
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nycfan said:
Peace through strength generally applies to military strength in dealings with adversaries, not economic bullying of allies.
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Oh yeah I know, but we aren't in normal times or under a normal presidency so I reckon we'll have to grade on a massive curve.

Mainly I'm just trying to look on the bright side as best as is possible.
 
CFordUNC said:
Oh yeah I know, but we aren't in normal times or under a normal presidency so I reckon we'll have to grade on a massive curve.

Mainly I'm just trying to look on the bright side as best as is possible.
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Season 3 Running GIF by The Simpsons
 
CFordUNC said:
I can't decide if this is "peace through strength" or "diplomacy through idiocy" but I guess I'll give props for now even though I know it's basically been bullshit political theater all along. I think Trump is an unimaginable moron but I like and cheer for our country and it's success far more than I hate Donald Trump, so whatever keeps the train on the tracks, I reckon.
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Props for what?

What has been accomplished?
 
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