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Callatoroy said:
He is a deeply vindictive person. However,

"But Trump’s decision to restrict Biden’s access to intelligence briefings comes exactly four years after Biden made the same move against Trump, citing his “erratic behavior” before and after the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol."

I mean you gotta call it both ways
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Didn’t Trump show classified documents about our nuclear submarine fleet to an Australian businessman? The man kept thinking “Why is he showing this to me?” Biden never did such a thing. JFC! You are comparing oranges (Biden) to dog turds (Trump).
 
Callatoroy said:
He is a deeply vindictive person. However,

"But Trump’s decision to restrict Biden’s access to intelligence briefings comes exactly four years after Biden made the same move against Trump, citing his “erratic behavior” before and after the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol."

I mean you gotta call it both ways
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One guy orchestrated an attempted coup. One guy didn’t.
 
Patb78 said:
Didn’t Trump show classified documents about our nuclear submarine fleet to an Australian businessman? The man kept thinking “Why is he showing this to me?” Biden never did such a thing. JFC! You are comparing oranges (Biden) to dog turds (Trump).
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no, biden left them in his unsecured garage. plus biden is mentally compromised. So you will justify why it was ok for biden to do it but not trump based on your partisanship. The bottom line is he did it because he could and out of spite. trump did the same thing. This is just the beginning of what trump is going to do to exact retribution. you reap what you sew.
 
Callatoroy said:
no, biden left them in his unsecured garage. plus biden is mentally compromised. So you will justify why it was ok for biden to do it but not trump based on your partisanship. The bottom line is he did it because he could and out of spite. trump did the same thing. This is just the beginning of what trump is going to do to exact retribution. you reap what you sow.
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You are full of shit. Trump showed classified documents about our nuclear submarine fleet to a man from Australia. The man posted it on social media. He said he thought to himself why is trump showing this to me. Plus Biden returned the documents he had. Trump denied he had them until the FBI went to his place in Florida and executed search warrants.
 
Patb78 said:
You are full of shit. Trump showed classified documents about our nuclear submarine fleet to a man from Australia. The man posted it on social media. He said he thought to himself why is trump showing this to me. Plus Biden returned the documents he had. Trump denied he had them until the FBI went to his place in Florida and executed search warrants.
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Good thing he was from australia. That's a long way away. he did return the documents he had in his garage, as well as various other locations so i guess it doesn't matter that he had them in the first case. Yes your honor, I broke in the house and stole the necklace but i took it back when i got caught so i'm not really a thief. Sound logic there chief. plus it does no good to waste the cia's time because he would just forget what he heard before finishing his pudding cup. I bet jill is really the mad one because that was the last shred of a tie to the presidency that she had.
 
The Venn diagram to keep in mind here are those Senate Republicans who voted once or twice to impeach Trump. Seveal of those have retired. Have to check but there are defitely still at least three serving. This is less about policy and more about rule of law and not abusing Prez anthority, same as the two impeachments of Trump. Nothing can get rhough the Senate if you have such a Gang of 8 who combines to block everything until the lawbraking and abuse of authority stopss.
 
Callatoroy said:
You don't have daily briefings with a guy who isn't mentally competent to offer unscripted answers to a reporters question and can't figure out how to exit a stage without a handler either.
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Did you dig that standard out of the federal regs?
 
heelslegup said:
The Venn diagram to keep in mind here are those Senate Republicans who voted once or twice to impeach Trump. Seveal of those have retired. Have to check but there are defitely still at least three serving. This is less about policy and more about rule of law and not abusing Prez anthority, same as the two impeachments of Trump. Nothing can get rhough the Senate if you have such a Gang of 8 who combines to block everything until the lawbraking and abuse of authority stopss.
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Who is the modern “Gang of Eight?”

You keep writing this bullshit.

It’s 53 R, 44 D, One Fetterman (who will flip), One Bernie, One Angus King.

Who is the “Gang of Eight?”

Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski have free rein to vote “Liberal” because their votes DO. NOT. MATTER.
 
heelslegup said:
The Venn diagram to keep in mind here are those Senate Republicans who voted once or twice to impeach Trump. Seveal of those have retired. Have to check but there are defitely still at least three serving. This is less about policy and more about rule of law and not abusing Prez anthority, same as the two impeachments of Trump. Nothing can get rhough the Senate if you have such a Gang of 8 who combines to block everything until the lawbraking and abuse of authority stopss.
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You actually think FOUR GOP Senators will side against Trump and MAGA.

Please name those four.

Don’t use Susan Collins or Lisa Murkowski as any of your four. When push-comes-to-shove, they vote Trumplican.
 
Callatoroy said:
He is a deeply vindictive person. However,

"But Trump’s decision to restrict Biden’s access to intelligence briefings comes exactly four years after Biden made the same move against Trump, citing his “erratic behavior” before and after the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol."

I mean you gotta call it both ways
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I don’t particularly care about Joe’s access to the info, TBH. I just continue to find Trump’s childish vindictive pettiness (the nature of his messaging rather than the act) breathtaking after a decade of witnessing it. Taking Joes intel access is an irrelevant matter generally — not nearly as bad as stripping protection from dorm Trump officials under threat from Iran, as an example (and then making provocative noise about Iran’s threats against Trump and lying that Biden hasn’t done so just to make it all worse).

Also, I thought Biden was clearly justified in ending Trump’s intel access after J6 and more than anything was annoyed it wasn’t one of his first actions after inauguration.
 


“… All three — Keenan Kmiec, James Burnham and Jacob Altik — have DOGE email addresses at the Executive Office of the President, according to records reviewed by ProPublica. Altik was recently an attorney at the firm Weil, Gotshal & Manges, but his bio page is now offline. Neither the White House nor any of the three lawyers immediately responded to requests for comment about their roles.

… “What’s striking is how contemptuous the administration seems to be of traditional administrative law limitations — in ways that might get them into trouble,” said Noah Rosenblum, a law professor at New York University. “When this stuff goes to the courts, one important question is going to be: How well-lawyered was it?”

… James Burnham, whose title at DOGE is listed internally as general counsel, is a prominent lawyer in conservative legal circles. In Trump’s first term, Burnham said he was brought to the White House counsel’s office by the office’s top lawyer, Don McGahn. He said he worked on the administration’s judicial selection process, including Gorsuch’s appointment to the high court. He went on to work in the Trump Justice Department and clerk for Gorsuch in 2020.

"He’s a smart guy, and a very conservative lawyer,” Ty Cobb, a lawyer in the first Trump White House, said of Burnham in an interview.

… Keenan Kmiec’s career veered from elite law to, more recently, crypto. After clerking for then-Judge Samuel Alito on a federal circuit court, he clerked on the Supreme Court for Roberts in the 2006-2007 term, according to his LinkedIn. He did a stint at a corporate law firm and had his own firm focused on insider-trading litigation.

… Kmiec’s father, Douglas Kmiec, a former Reagan administration lawyer and prominent conservative law professor, also made headlines for endorsing Obama. (Obama later named Douglas Kmiec ambassador to Malta.)

DOGE lawyer Jacob Altik is a 2021 graduate of the University of Michigan Law School. Altik was selected to clerk for Gorsuch at the Supreme Court in the term that starts this summer, according to an announcement by his law school that was confirmed by a Supreme Court spokesperson.

Altik recently worked as a corporate litigation associate at Weil and previously clerked for D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Neomi Rao, a Trump appointee known for critiquing the administrative state. He also interned at a nonprofit called the New Civil Liberties Alliance, which has been at the forefront of legal efforts to rein in the power of federal agencies. …”
 
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Judge Halts Access to Treasury Payment Systems by Elon Musk’s Team​

The order came in response to a lawsuit filed by 19 attorneys general accusing the president of failing to faithfully execute the nation’s laws when he let DOGE comb through federal computer systems.

“… Judge Engelmayer ordered any such official who was granted access to the systems since Jan. 20 to “destroy any and all copies of material downloaded from the Treasury Department’s records and systems.” He also restricted the Trump administration from granting access to these categories of officials.

The defendants — President Trump, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and the Treasury Department — should show cause on Feb. 14 before Judge Jeannette A. Vargas, who is handling the case on a permanent basis, Judge Engelmayer said.

… Before President Trump took office last month, access was granted to only a limited number of career civil servants with security clearances, the suit said. But Mr. Musk’s efforts had interrupted federal funding for health clinics, preschools, and climate initiatives, according to the filing.

The money had already been allocated by Congress. The Constitution assigns to lawmakers the job of deciding government spending.

“President Trump does not have the power to give away Americans’ private information to anyone he chooses, and he cannot cut federal payments approved by Congress,” Ms. James said in a statement. “Musk and DOGE have no authority to access Americans’ private information and some of our country’s most sensitive data.” …”
 
nycfan said:


“… All three — Keenan Kmiec, James Burnham and Jacob Altik — have DOGE email addresses at the Executive Office of the President, according to records reviewed by ProPublica. Altik was recently an attorney at the firm Weil, Gotshal & Manges, but his bio page is now offline. Neither the White House nor any of the three lawyers immediately responded to requests for comment about their roles.

… “What’s striking is how contemptuous the administration seems to be of traditional administrative law limitations — in ways that might get them into trouble,” said Noah Rosenblum, a law professor at New York University. “When this stuff goes to the courts, one important question is going to be: How well-lawyered was it?”

… James Burnham, whose title at DOGE is listed internally as general counsel, is a prominent lawyer in conservative legal circles. In Trump’s first term, Burnham said he was brought to the White House counsel’s office by the office’s top lawyer, Don McGahn. He said he worked on the administration’s judicial selection process, including Gorsuch’s appointment to the high court. He went on to work in the Trump Justice Department and clerk for Gorsuch in 2020.

"He’s a smart guy, and a very conservative lawyer,” Ty Cobb, a lawyer in the first Trump White House, said of Burnham in an interview.

… Keenan Kmiec’s career veered from elite law to, more recently, crypto. After clerking for then-Judge Samuel Alito on a federal circuit court, he clerked on the Supreme Court for Roberts in the 2006-2007 term, according to his LinkedIn. He did a stint at a corporate law firm and had his own firm focused on insider-trading litigation.

… Kmiec’s father, Douglas Kmiec, a former Reagan administration lawyer and prominent conservative law professor, also made headlines for endorsing Obama. (Obama later named Douglas Kmiec ambassador to Malta.)

DOGE lawyer Jacob Altik is a 2021 graduate of the University of Michigan Law School. Altik was selected to clerk for Gorsuch at the Supreme Court in the term that starts this summer, according to an announcement by his law school that was confirmed by a Supreme Court spokesperson.

Altik recently worked as a corporate litigation associate at Weil and previously clerked for D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals Judge Neomi Rao, a Trump appointee known for critiquing the administrative state. He also interned at a nonprofit called the New Civil Liberties Alliance, which has been at the forefront of legal efforts to rein in the power of federal agencies. …”
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Ugh, the American people are screwed. Honestly, I never thought red-pilled, racist, incel techbros would be our overlords, but here we are. BigBalls, 26, Director of Destroying Humanity.

I had an IC handle for about 2 days, around 7 years ago. Ben said I was too mean, and banned me forever. I promise to only be an appropriate level of mean now, based on the societal conditions that the techbros make us suffer through. Deal?
 
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