Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

[Healing]

Good, I guess, but Vance has WAY more sway with American Catholics than the Pope does now.

I don’t know about this objectively, but certainly anecdotally. My very banal, rhetorically inoffensive, deeply catholic, maga “in-laws” have a 100% rate of siding with maga over the pope. They hand waved don1.0 brown kid kidnappings, and recently were shocked to learn anyone could’ve thought Musk was doing a seig hiel … “oh, honey, he’s just an awkward man.” Everything between brown kid kidnappings and seig hiels were treated with similar polite deflection. They’re absolutely Good Germans, to the T.

 

[breepf]

I know very little about the law, but is it the assumption moving forward that the Trump administration will appeal these rulings to SCOTUS, where we then face the following possibilities?

1) SCOTUS kneecaps the judiciary and Trump wins;

2) SCOTUS retains a shred of legitimacy; Trump backs down;

3) SCOTUS retains a shred of legitimacy; Trump still doesn't back down

 

[altmin]

I don’t know about this objectively, but certainly anecdotally. My very banal, rhetorically inoffensive, deeply catholic, maga “in-laws” have a 100% rate of siding with maga over the pope. They hand waved don1.0 brown kid kidnappings, and recently were shocked to learn anyone could’ve thought Musk was doing a seig hiel … “oh, honey, he’s just an awkward man.” Everything between brown kid kidnappings and seig hiels were treated with similar polite deflection. They’re absolutely Good Germans, to the T.

I understand how you feel. Sounds exactly like my family. At least you married into it. I was born into that awfulness. Shameful and depressing for me.

 

[finesse]

I know very little about the law, but is it the assumption moving forward that the Trump administration will appeal these rulings to SCOTUS, where we then face the following possibilities?

1) SCOTUS kneecaps the judiciary and Trump wins;

2) SCOTUS retains a shred of legitimacy; Trump backs down;

3) SCOTUS retains a shred of legitimacy; Trump still doesn't back down

I'm expecting 1 or 3 and lean toward 1.

 

[lawtig02]

It would be virtually impossible for any one person to have a complete understanding of every federal expenditure. Projects like this one bring things to light that probably 99% of Americans would never know about.

It also brings to light just how loosely our representatives handle taxpayer money.

So now that you know FEMA was ordered by Congress, through the very public legislative process, to spend those funds, you still think it's essential that DOGE be "bringing it to light"? Do you also think the president should defy Congress's direction on this expenditure?

 

[nycfan]

Halt on Trump administration’s cuts to NIH research payments expanded nationwide​

The agency wants to impose a 15% cap on NIH support for indirect costs​

“A federal judge in Boston ordered a nationwide temporary pause on plans by the National Institutes of Health to substantially slash research overhead payments to universities, medical centers, and other grant recipients.

Judge Angel Kelley of the U.S. District Court for the District of Massachusetts issued the temporary restraining order late Monday night in response to a lawsuit filed that afternoon by associations representing the nation’s medical, pharmacy, and public health schools, as well as Boston and New York-area hospitals.

In the order, Kelley wrote that the defendants cannot take “any steps to implement, apply, or enforce the [policy] … in any form with respect to institutions nationwide until further order is issued by this Court.”

The pause, which is to remain in place until otherwise ordered by the court, comes after Kelley granted another temporary restraining order earlier Monday in response to a lawsuit filed by attorneys general from 22 states. That pause only applied to those specific states, meaning that the NIH policy change was still in effect in the rest of the country. …”

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Another case of Red States benefiting from the work of Blue States …

 

[Carolina Fever]

Might as well get rid of congress and let King Trump take care of everything at this point.

 

[Carolina Fever]

Arrest them and put them in jail if they don't follow the court orders. Pubs need to have the balls to impeach them all.

 

[CFordUNC]

Funny, that's exactly what Stormy Daniels said about Trump!

 

[farce©]

Arrest them and put them in jail if they don't follow the court orders. Pubs need to have the balls to impeach them all.

The Pubs agree with what they are doing. Any Republicans with a trace of ethics and morality have been purged from the party. What is left are just authoritarian cheerleaders and taint sniffers.

 

[korgguy1971]

lol both parties? Can anyone point me to when the Biden admin defied court orders that struck down its policies?

Not a serious person. Ignore him.

 

[ZenMode]

So now that you know FEMA was ordered by Congress, through the very public legislative process, to spend those funds, you still think it's essential that DOGE be "bringing it to light"? Do you also think the president should defy Congress's direction on this expenditure?

I do think it's essential that it's brought to light just as the ridiculous USAID expenditures should be brought to light. As to whether or not the President should defy Congress is a question of whether or not he has authority to defy Congress. If he doesn't - no. If he does - yes.

I also wonder if Congress knew that immigrants were being housed in expensive NY hotels or did they just generally approve FEMA money to address housing, not knowing that it was going to be poorly used.

Who decided use NY hotels vs a Motel 6 in the Bronx or housing them in a vacant building or other fiscally responsible options.

 

[korgguy1971]

Pubs need to have the balls to impeach them all.

Never. Gonna. Happen.

Ever.

 

[finesse]

I think we ought to take a straw poll about this penny ante president and his puppet master.

 

[farce©]

Regardless of what you think of Trump, Elon or the whole DOGE project, I think bringing to light that taxpayers are spending hundreds of millions, and billions over time, to house illegal immigrants in NY hotels, is a good thing.

Do they? I'm not a lawyer, but if a district judge has no authority over Merrick Garland, why would a District judge have authority over the President?

Give it up. You don’t understand because you don’t want to understand. It’s called posting in bad faith, better known as trolling. And you’re not as good at it as you think you are. Just stop.

 

[finesse]

Give it up. You don’t understand because you don’t want to understand. It’s called posting in bad faith, better known as trolling. And you’re not as good at it as you think you are. Just stop.

He's terrible at it. Dumb bastard even let on that I got in his head. What self respecting troll would do that? Just pitiful.

 

[Carolina Fever]

Give it up. You don’t understand because you don’t want to understand. It’s called posting in bad faith, better known as trolling. And you’re not as good at it as you think you are. Just stop.

Along with gtyellowjacket and ZZLPHeels.

 

[TangledUpInBlue06]

It goes through lower courts. So, I guess the question is whether courts below SCOTUS have jurisdiction over the executive branch. Would a district judge? Probably not, IMO. A circuit court judge...maybe?

"Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt."

 

[BillOfRights]

Of course they do. What are you suggesting?

He's suggesting that other Presidents have to respect the courts, but trump doesn't.

 

[BillOfRights]

Do they? I'm not a lawyer, but if a district judge has no authority over Merrick Garland, why would a District judge have authority over the President?

I don't know, maybe because no one is above the law, and judges' jobs are to interpret and apply the law?