rodoheel
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This is exactly the kind of stupid bullshit I predicted Musk would do (and will use it as a pretext for further firing).
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This is exactly the kind of stupid bullshit I predicted Musk would do (and will use it as a pretext for further firing).
aGDevil2k
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I kind of hope that is what they try
I feel awful for those who are impacted that didn't vote for him but I'm thinking of how to get out of this hell ASAP
rodoheel
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More likely they’ll cherry pick a few of what they think are the “worst” examples to show their cuts are justified.
HintonJamesHeel
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This is worst than I even expected and my bar was so low.
Mulberry Heel
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What's so infuriating about all these stories - and they're now a daily occurrence - is that there were plenty of people warning endlessly last year that this is exactly what would happen if he got elected. And guys like this just stuck their heads in the sand and didn't listen. And like so many other Trumpers, I'm sure he thought that Trump using "a fine-toothed comb" meant that it was liberals and others who would pay the price and get fired, not people like him. If you worked for the federal government (or in a job dependent upon federal funds) and you voted for Trump you're crazy and were voting to cut your own throat, whether you now admit it or not.
aGDevil2k
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I have zero sympathy for ANYONE who voted for him or didn't vote for Harris
They can eat it. Their awfulness is causing pain for people who knew better
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superrific
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Did not see Kash Patel as the voice of reason.
Unless he's just saving the opportunity to fire them himself.
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you’re cheering for a South African sociopath to fuck over US military veterans then you should probably stop with that America first bullshit.</p>— Adam Parkhomenko (@AdamParkhomenko) <a href="">February 23, 2025</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Make no mistake, all these fools will be looking for ways to shiv Elon soon. He's a cancer worse than Trump himself and ALL of us will want him on a pike in front of the Capitol before this is over.
Mark my words that the fanboys on here will be first in line with the pitchforks soon but they'll never admit just how wrong they were.
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I see it as an empty response from a vassal attempting to retain the appearance of control within his fiefdom. The federal government is closer to a feudal state now.
aGDevil2k
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Flashback Quote of the Day
“We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected. When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work.” — Trump budget director Russell Vought, in a private speech
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I nearly posted the same thing about an hour ago.
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What Just Happened: Musk-OPM Send Email to Federal Employees Asking for Five Accomplishments
What Just Happened: Musk-OPM Send Email to Federal Employees Asking for Five Accomplishments
The OPM's recent email and online threat by Elon Musk demonstrate that resignations and layoffs will continue — whether lawful or not.
www.justsecurity.org
“…The [OPC] email did not repeat Musk’s threat equating a non-response to a resignation. Nor did the email provide any consequences about what would happen if employees missed the Monday evening deadline.
Screenshots sent by some anonymous federal employees showed that the email was marked as “suspicious.” Other anonymous federal employees reported they had not received the email, but it was unclear whether OPM intentionally excluded these employees.
What’s more, some individuals outside the executive branch reportedly received the email, including at least one federal judge and some law clerks. Some agencies have reportedly told employees to “pause on any responses” as of this writing.
… The OPM email does not specify how the agency intends to use the information it collects from employees. One possibility is that OPM intends for agencies to use this data to implement Executive Order 14210. Executive Order 14210 instructs agency heads to “develop a data-driven plan, in consultation with its DOGE Team Lead, to ensure new career appointment hires are in highest-need areas.”
The Director of OPM is in charge of overseeing the creation of these plans. The same executive order instructs agency heads to initiate “large-scalereductions in force (RIFs).” RIFs are governedby specific rules, which require the agency to classify employees and remove them based on their order of tenure. It is possible that agencies may use the data collected from these emails to make retention and removal decisions.
Yet these emails alone would be an insufficient basis for an RIF because the process requires significantly more information about the functions performed by each employee.
More broadly, the email raises concerns about the efficacy of the Trump administration’s efforts to cut the federal workforce.
Five bullet points describing one work week—a week that included a federal holiday—cannot capture the importance of the work performed by most federal employees. And it certainly cannot capture the functions of those federal employees already placed on administrative leave, who were explicitly prohibited from performing their job duties during the week in question. …”
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“…What Just Happened: Musk-OPM Send Email to Federal Employees Asking for Five Accomplishments
What Just Happened: Musk-OPM Send Email to Federal Employees Asking for Five Accomplishments
The OPM's recent email and online threat by Elon Musk demonstrate that resignations and layoffs will continue — whether lawful or not.
“…The [OPC] email did not repeat Musk’s threat equating a non-response to a resignation. Nor did the email provide any consequences about what would happen if employees missed the Monday evening deadline.
Screenshots sent by some anonymous federal employees showed that the email was marked as “suspicious.” Other anonymous federal employees reported they had not received the email, but it was unclear whether OPM intentionally excluded these employees.
What’s more, some individuals outside the executive branch reportedly received the email, including at least one federal judge and some law clerks. Some agencies have reportedly told employees to “pause on any responses” as of this writing.
… The OPM email does not specify how the agency intends to use the information it collects from employees. One possibility is that OPM intends for agencies to use this data to implement Executive Order 14210. Executive Order 14210 instructs agency heads to “develop a data-driven plan, in consultation with its DOGE Team Lead, to ensure new career appointment hires are in highest-need areas.”
The Director of OPM is in charge of overseeing the creation of these plans. The same executive order instructs agency heads to initiate “large-scalereductions in force (RIFs).” RIFs are governedby specific rules, which require the agency to classify employees and remove them based on their order of tenure. It is possible that agencies may use the data collected from these emails to make retention and removal decisions.
Yet these emails alone would be an insufficient basis for an RIF because the process requires significantly more information about the functions performed by each employee.
More broadly, the email raises concerns about the efficacy of the Trump administration’s efforts to cut the federal workforce.
Five bullet points describing one work week—a week that included a federal holiday—cannot capture the importance of the work performed by most federal employees. And it certainly cannot capture the functions of those federal employees already placed on administrative leave, who were explicitly prohibited from performing their job duties during the week in question. …”
Could an agency treat an employee’s failure to respond to the OPM email as a resignation?
No. The resignation of a federal employee must be voluntary. The Merit Systems Protection Board (MSPB) has stated that “[t]he touchstone of the analysis of whether a retirement or resignation is voluntary is whether the employee made an informed choice. A decision made ‘with blinders on,’ based on misinformation or lack of information, cannot be binding as a matter of fundamental fairness and due process.”A non-response to an email—especially an email with a deadline of one business day—does not evidence a “choice.” Moreover, a resignation must be requested by the employee—not the employer. The MSPB has jurisdiction to consider whether a resignation was, in fact, voluntary. I fully anticipate that the MSPB would not classify a removal pursuant to this email as a “voluntary resignation.” Were the Board somehow to fail to do so, the federal courts would likely overturn that decision.
Moreover, classifying a non-response as a resignation seeks to evade the civil service protections for performance-based firings. The MSPB lacks jurisdiction over issues arising from voluntary resignations except for determining whether the resignation was, in fact, voluntary. Yet employees removed from their position by the agency enjoy certain due process protections. The agency must provide notice and an opportunity for the employee to respond. The employee may then challenge their removal before the MSPB. The Trump administration cannot deprive employees of their due process rights through loopholes. …”