Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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Well, we know what some at the NSA accomplished "last week"

NSA investigates 'secret sex chats' under guise of DEI on internal agency message board

'Those involved will be held accountable,' said DNI Tulsi Gabbard

Federal employees within the intelligence community are under investigation for allegedly misusing an internal agency messaging board to dish on their sexual fantasies under the guise of diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI), officials say.

Chat logs from the National Security Agency's (NSA) "Intelink" messaging platform, obtained by researchers from the conservative Manhattan Institute reportedly via sources within the NSA, revealed employees from various intelligence agencies discussing their experiences with gender-reassignment surgery, artificial genitalia, hormone therapy, polyamory and pronoun usage. Some of these agencies reportedly include the Defense Intelligence Agency, U.S. Naval Intelligence and the NSA.

One Defense Intelligence Agency officer who had gender transition surgery appears to have written messages about experiences "being penetrated," while other messages included graphic descriptions of laser hair removal, hormone replacement therapy and breast augmentation, among other procedures. Some discussions included talk about sexual arousal post-operation and other lewd sexual experiences.

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NSA investigates 'secret sex chats' under guise of DEI on internal agency message board

The NSA said it is investigating potential abuses of an internal agency message board that was uncovered to be host to explicit discussions of officials' sexual fetishes and experiences with transgender surgery.
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ZenMode said:
Well, we know what some at the NSA accomplished "last week"

NSA investigates 'secret sex chats' under guise of DEI on internal agency message board

'Those involved will be held accountable,' said DNI Tulsi Gabbard

Federal employees within the intelligence community are under investigation for allegedly misusing an internal agency messaging board to dish on their sexual fantasies under the guise of diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI), officials say.

Chat logs from the National Security Agency's (NSA) "Intelink" messaging platform, obtained by researchers from the conservative Manhattan Institute reportedly via sources within the NSA, revealed employees from various intelligence agencies discussing their experiences with gender-reassignment surgery, artificial genitalia, hormone therapy, polyamory and pronoun usage. Some of these agencies reportedly include the Defense Intelligence Agency, U.S. Naval Intelligence and the NSA.

One Defense Intelligence Agency officer who had gender transition surgery appears to have written messages about experiences "being penetrated," while other messages included graphic descriptions of laser hair removal, hormone replacement therapy and breast augmentation, among other procedures. Some discussions included talk about sexual arousal post-operation and other lewd sexual experiences.

www.foxnews.com

NSA investigates 'secret sex chats' under guise of DEI on internal agency message board

The NSA said it is investigating potential abuses of an internal agency message board that was uncovered to be host to explicit discussions of officials' sexual fetishes and experiences with transgender surgery.
www.foxnews.com www.foxnews.com
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Why would you accept this at face value? It's obviously a lie, or being mischaracterized.
 
ZenMode said:
I have managed employees and currently have a managerial job, though not managing employees.

In your zeal to try to make a point, you missed that facts that literally no part of any discussion, I've been involved in, has mentioned managers... until now.
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I'm not making a point either way. I'm just saying that managers often do nothing but manage employees. There aren't "accomplishments" there, and there aren't necessary five bullet points either. There's nothing wrong with being a manager or not a manager. I've been a manager but I'm not very good at it. I just think your claims that "if you can't list five bullet points about what you do, then there's a problem" betray a lot of assumptions on your part
 
So when people discuss gender reassignment surgery, hormone therapy, or artificial genitalia, you call that a "sex chat"?
 
ZenMode said:
I didn't say I supported or didn't support. I just said it will be determined by the courts.
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Whose decisions Trump will promptly ignore.

“John Marshall [or insert your favorite judge] has made his decision, now let him enforce it”. - POTUS Andrew Jackson (one of Trump's favorites)
 
superrific said:
I'm not making a point either way. I'm just saying that managers often do nothing but manage employees. There aren't "accomplishments" there, and there aren't necessary five bullet points either. There's nothing wrong with being a manager or not a manager. I've been a manager but I'm not very good at it. I just think your claims that "if you can't list five bullet points about what you do, then there's a problem" betray a lot of assumptions on your part
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You were trying to make a point. Your unnecessary, but not uncommon, comment about me made that clear.

Either way, every position, including manager, has it's official responsibilities to list that are not likely to be exciting or impressive. They're just your job.
 


Not sure if he is just re-branding the EB-5 program that already basically sells green cards or just devising a pay is $5 million and you’re in scheme, regardless of investments in the USA or job creation (which EB-5 requires) otherwise.
 
ZenMode said:
Why is it "obviously" a lie or mischaracterized?
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1. When Trump claims something, that thing is vastly more likely to be false than true.
2. That seems to be true of Musk as well, and his whole administration. Nothing but liars up and down.
3. The whole premise is nonsensical.
4. The concept of DEI is again being misused and stretched beyond limit. Even if that discussion was occurring, it would not involve any sort of DEI rubric. So at a bare minimum, that connection is fabricated. Since that's fabricated, there's absolutely no reason to believe any of the other parts of the report.
 
nycfan said:


Not sure if he is just re-branding the EB-5 program that already basically sells green cards or just devising a pay is $5 million and you’re in scheme, regardless of investments in the USA or job creation (which EB-5 requires) otherwise.
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Nobody with $5M to pay for such a thing would rely on a program that has no congressional authorization.

But I said the same thing about Apple and Google's continued hosting of Tik Tok. Still, this is one step further.
 
superrific said:
1. When Trump claims something, that thing is vastly more likely to be false than true.
2. That seems to be true of Musk as well, and his whole administration. Nothing but liars up and down.
3. The whole premise is nonsensical.
4. The concept of DEI is again being misused and stretched beyond limit. Even if that discussion was occurring, it would not involve any sort of DEI rubric. So at a bare minimum, that connection is fabricated. Since that's fabricated, there's absolutely no reason to believe any of the other parts of the report.
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1. Trump didn't claim it:
christopherrufo.com

The NSA’s Secret Sex Chats

Intelligence officials maintained a chatroom to discuss polyamory and transgender surgeries, internal documents reveal.
christopherrufo.com christopherrufo.com

2. Musk didn't claim it.
3. Opinion noted.
4. I don't think it was under an official rubric of federal DEI. That isn't what's claimed. It's saying that the authors tried to disguise it as DEI discussions.

Do you agree, if true, those discussions have no place in an NSA internal messaging tool?
 
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