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"I might spend an entire week working on an appellate brief. It can be very time consuming. I don’t know how I’d break that down into multiple bullet points. Sometimes I might be in trial for an entire week, where all I do is focus on that trial. I guess I could break that down in bullet points like: (1) I cross examined witness A; (2) I cross examined witness B; (3) I objected to the admission of evidence and presented an argument against its admissibility; (4) I cross examined witness C, etc."

There you go. Four of the five bullets are done just that fast.
And how does that give us an accurate understanding of your job and how you are performing it? It doesn't.

I'd just fire you for not being able to get a judgement after one witness. You're not very efficient from my perspective.
 
What Zen is showing is that he's never had a managerial job.
I have managed employees and currently have a managerial job, though not managing employees.

In your zeal to try to make a point, you missed that facts that literally no part of any discussion, I've been involved in, has mentioned managers... until now.
 
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Rock, as the person in charge, could give you precisely the authority you just described, could he not?
Not if this private message board were designed with the checks and balances of our federal government.

What you are describing is a dictatorship, where one person has authority. In case you haven't noticed our president still isn't a dictator. But with people like you so willing to let him do a he pleases, we may be heading that way.
 
It's somewhat heartening to think that all the federal employees who supported Trump/Musk or were neutral about them are now probably lining up to join the ranks of the deep state.

If the "deep state" didn't exist before, it does now, and includes every federal employee who is interested in continuing to be able to feed their children.
 
The long-term project I work on started a mandate a couple of years ago that everyone needed to log how much time they spent on each task per week, basically groupings of types of work (meetings, training, testing, etc.)

It was the dumbest thing ever and took extra time to put into a system what I did during the day. It also wasn't important enough at the end of the week to have actually logged what I really did, so I just would put 14 hours on this, 12 on this, etc until it added up to 40. Eventually the management stopped making us do this because the stats they were getting from it were totally meaningless and everyone hated them for making us do it.

Even the people that didn't care at first and are annoying "the managers mean well!" brown-nosers got tired of it after a couple months.
 
Not if this private message board were designed with the checks and balances of our federal government.

What you are describing is a dictatorship, where one person has authority. In case you haven't noticed our president still isn't a dictator. But with people like you so willing to let him do a he pleases, we may be heading that way.
The President runs the executive branch. The question of how hands-on he can run it is for the courts to decide.
 

For Trump, 3 court losses in 90 minutes​



"... In DC, Judge Loren AliKhan issued a preliminary injunction that indefinitely blocks the administration from freezing federal grants and loans. The ruling expands an earlier block the appointee of former President Joe Biden issued last month shortly after the White House ordered the funding freeze.

Trump’s spending freeze, she wrote, was “irrational, imprudent, and precipitated a nationwide crisis.” She said the nonprofits that brought the challenge were likely to succeed on their claims that the freeze was unlawful.

...a separate jurist in the DC federal courthouse – Judge Amir Ali – ordered the Trump administration to pay foreign aid-related money owed to government contractors and nonprofit groups by Wednesday night, amid the legal fight over the freezing of USAID and State Department funds.

That order amounted to a legal reprimand after the plaintiffs in the cases repeatedly accused the administration of not complying with Ali’s earlier temporary restraining order that revived the funding contracts and grants that existed at the end of the Biden administration.

Ali – also a Biden appointee – rebuffed an earlier call by the challengers for the administration to be held in contempt for its alleged non-compliance. But he issued a new order requiring, in more forceful terms, that the government pay money owed to contractors and non-profits for work that had already been completed by the February 13 order.

Meanwhile, across the country in Washington state, a federal judge in Seattle issued a preliminary injunction on Tuesday that halts Trump’s executive order suspending refugee admissions and funding.

Judge Jamal Whitehead, who was also appointed by Biden, said that Trump’s “actions amount to an effective nullification of congressional will in establishing the nation’s refugee admissions program.”

“While the president has substantial discretion to suspend refugee admissions, that authority is not limitless,” the judge said.

Trump’s executive order, signed on his first day back in office, also directed a review of the refugee program and stated that resettlement should only resume if deemed to be in the “national interest” – a move critics argue is a de facto refugee ban. ..."
 
Some of us work in a right-to-work state, and at publicly traded companies where profits are a priority and, as such, we are all constantly trying to make ourselves relevant and stand out to keep our jobs.

We can't all work for unions or the government.
Oh. I’ve been on the dole my whole life so I can’t really imagine what that’s like.
 
Well, we know what some at the NSA accomplished "last week"

NSA investigates 'secret sex chats' under guise of DEI on internal agency message board

'Those involved will be held accountable,' said DNI Tulsi Gabbard

Federal employees within the intelligence community are under investigation for allegedly misusing an internal agency messaging board to dish on their sexual fantasies under the guise of diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI), officials say.

Chat logs from the National Security Agency's (NSA) "Intelink" messaging platform, obtained by researchers from the conservative Manhattan Institute reportedly via sources within the NSA, revealed employees from various intelligence agencies discussing their experiences with gender-reassignment surgery, artificial genitalia, hormone therapy, polyamory and pronoun usage. Some of these agencies reportedly include the Defense Intelligence Agency, U.S. Naval Intelligence and the NSA.

One Defense Intelligence Agency officer who had gender transition surgery appears to have written messages about experiences "being penetrated," while other messages included graphic descriptions of laser hair removal, hormone replacement therapy and breast augmentation, among other procedures. Some discussions included talk about sexual arousal post-operation and other lewd sexual experiences.

 
Well, we know what some at the NSA accomplished "last week"

NSA investigates 'secret sex chats' under guise of DEI on internal agency message board

'Those involved will be held accountable,' said DNI Tulsi Gabbard

Federal employees within the intelligence community are under investigation for allegedly misusing an internal agency messaging board to dish on their sexual fantasies under the guise of diversity, equity and inclusion (DEI), officials say.

Chat logs from the National Security Agency's (NSA) "Intelink" messaging platform, obtained by researchers from the conservative Manhattan Institute reportedly via sources within the NSA, revealed employees from various intelligence agencies discussing their experiences with gender-reassignment surgery, artificial genitalia, hormone therapy, polyamory and pronoun usage. Some of these agencies reportedly include the Defense Intelligence Agency, U.S. Naval Intelligence and the NSA.

One Defense Intelligence Agency officer who had gender transition surgery appears to have written messages about experiences "being penetrated," while other messages included graphic descriptions of laser hair removal, hormone replacement therapy and breast augmentation, among other procedures. Some discussions included talk about sexual arousal post-operation and other lewd sexual experiences.

Why would you accept this at face value? It's obviously a lie, or being mischaracterized.
 
I have managed employees and currently have a managerial job, though not managing employees.

In your zeal to try to make a point, you missed that facts that literally no part of any discussion, I've been involved in, has mentioned managers... until now.
I'm not making a point either way. I'm just saying that managers often do nothing but manage employees. There aren't "accomplishments" there, and there aren't necessary five bullet points either. There's nothing wrong with being a manager or not a manager. I've been a manager but I'm not very good at it. I just think your claims that "if you can't list five bullet points about what you do, then there's a problem" betray a lot of assumptions on your part
 
So when people discuss gender reassignment surgery, hormone therapy, or artificial genitalia, you call that a "sex chat"?
 
I didn't say I supported or didn't support. I just said it will be determined by the courts.
Whose decisions Trump will promptly ignore.

“John Marshall [or insert your favorite judge] has made his decision, now let him enforce it”. - POTUS Andrew Jackson (one of Trump's favorites)
 
I'm not making a point either way. I'm just saying that managers often do nothing but manage employees. There aren't "accomplishments" there, and there aren't necessary five bullet points either. There's nothing wrong with being a manager or not a manager. I've been a manager but I'm not very good at it. I just think your claims that "if you can't list five bullet points about what you do, then there's a problem" betray a lot of assumptions on your part
You were trying to make a point. Your unnecessary, but not uncommon, comment about me made that clear.

Either way, every position, including manager, has it's official responsibilities to list that are not likely to be exciting or impressive. They're just your job.
 
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