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Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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finesse said:
I like the Star Wars reference someone made the other day. Donald the Hutt.
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Yeah, I definitely think that Dear Leader has far more similarities to Jabba the Hutt than Darth Sidious or Darth Vader or any Sith Lord. Trump lacks the guts, deviousness, intelligence, self-discipline, and patience and long-term thinking that Sith Lords display. He's much more of a third-rate mob boss than a Lord of the Sith. Other members of his administration are far more likely to have Sith Lord traits than Trump, like Stephen Miller. But Dear Leader himself? Nah. He really is Jabba come to life.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Yeah, I definitely think that Dear Leader has far more similarities to Jabba the Hutt than Darth Sidious or Darth Vader or any Sith Lord. Trump lacks the guts, deviousness, intelligence, self-discipline, and patience and long-term thinking that Sith Lords display. He's much more of a third-rate mob boss than a Lord of the Sith. Other members of his administration are far more likely to have Sith Lord traits than Trump, like Stephen Miller. But Dear Leader himself? Nah. He really is Jabba come to life.
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I was thinking more his charming personality, manly physique and charitable heart.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
I don't get that. Of course it's okay to fire veterans. Some of them aren't going to be good workers.

I do think it's good to give them a leg up on the federal government hiring process, but if they're not performing or they are in a program that is getting cut, they're on the block like everybody else.
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Are you under the impression there is a performance component to who gets the boot in the current DOGE destruction of our federal government?
 
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Yes.
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That's contradicted by basically all publicly available evidence. If they laid off the nuclear weapons folks and the bird flu folks, and then they had to hire them back, it wasn't performance based, was it?

And the fact that they have been focusing on probationary makes it clear that they aren't targeting performance. Rather, they are firing the people they can most easily fire.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Yes.
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Incorrect. Probationary employees aren't on probation bc of work or performance issues. It's a designation given to people who've just joined the government and/or some of those who've been there for years but transfered from different positions.

I'm stil in my early probationary period with the DOD as a civilian employee (EOD 12/2/24) and it doesn't end until 12-2-25 and I haven't even had my first performance review (it's at the end of this month). I'm fairly certain I'll get the top marks as I've been praised for my current work and even had the director of my division point out my current performance on an agency-wide all hands teams meeting. So if I were to get a letter saying I was let go for performance reasons it would absolutely be horseshit and I would sue and win.

Though I'm still in my probationary period, I'm fairly safe bc I'm emergency essential, meaning they would need an exceptionally good reason to let me go bc my job is mission critical.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Yes.
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I certainly don’t know the circumstances of every firing that has occurred, but I personally know people who have been let go despite ratings of commendable or outstanding. And I have not seen or heard any indication that that the actual performance of employees plays any roll in who gets fired.
 
NOVAHEEL13 said:
Incorrect. Probationary employees aren't on probation bc of work or performance issues. It's a designation given to people who've just joined the government and/or some of those who've been there for years but transfered from different positions.

I'm stil in my early probationary period with the DOD as a civilian employee (EOD 12/2/24) and it doesn't end until 12-2-25 and I haven't even had my first performance review (it's at the end of this month). I'm fairly certain I'll get the top marks as I've been praised for my current work and even had the director of my division point out my current performance on an agency-wide all hands teams meeting. So if I were to get a letter saying I was let go for performance reasons it would absolutely be horseshit and I would sue and win.

Though I'm still in my probationary period, I'm fairly safe bc I'm emergency essential, meaning they would need an exceptionally good reason to let me go bc my job is mission critical.
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Most companies put new workers on probation. It has nothing to do with performance. It’s just a designation that applies to all new workers.
 
I'm not sure they've thought through the GDP thing. If they exclude GDP from the report, you'll get headlines like:

GDP drops 20% in 1Q!
 
PTOHeel said:
I certainly don’t know the circumstances of every firing that has occurred, but I personally know people who have been let go despite ratings of commendable or outstanding. And I have not seen or heard any indication that that the actual performance of employees plays any roll in who gets fired.
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I'm sure it happens. There's a lot of layoffs. I think performance is one but probably the bigger issue is the program that the employee is working on.
 
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