Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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HeelYeah2012 said:
Maybe or maybe not. But I don’t form my opinions based on what other people on “my side” might tend to think. I form my own opinions and I think that’s what everyone should do.

Making our foods healthier is a way bigger issue to me than almost every political issue we debate on here all the time, whether it’s guns or abortion or transgenders in sports. But historically it’s never seemed to me like any politicians have ever taken this on as a primary cause. It seems like RFK wants to. I hope he can get it done.
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superrific said:
I see your point. But at the same time, maybe some of the "hysteria" you refer to is genuine fear and anxiety about the future. Like, I have a lot of that right now.

My kids are freaking out again today. An 8th grade teacher in the district suddenly died. I have no idea why or what happened, and I doubt it's connected to anything politically. But the climate of fear is pervasive, and given what happened last week, everyone is on edge. This is part of the cruelty that is the point, and I fully expect our troglodyte posters to make fun of my kids for this.

Keep in mind that I live near a university and there are plenty of members of my community who are DACA. One is a parapro at my boys' school and they know her. Another is one of my eldest son't best friends. Everyone is fucking terrified of the jackboots.
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I know some of that hysteria is genuine fear and anxiety, and that’s part of my point: there is no point in us putting ourselves through it more than we have to. It will be bad enough if and when bad stuff happens. The time we spend worrying before it happens is just unnecessary pain and stress.

This is very much a do what I say, not what I do thing. I’m just as bad about this. But both for our own sakes and the sake of not burning out others with dire warnings about disaster that may or may not happen, I think we should try to chill over the next couple months.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
Gaetz is the one bad pick so far to me. Objectively awful pick as AG, no argument there.

I think RFK is high risk high reward in his role. If he focuses on food/nutrition and removing harmful chemicals etc I think he has a chance to make a huge positive impact in that role. If he focuses on being anti vaxx then obviously that will suck. I could see that one going either way but I’m actually optimistic he can Make America Healthy Again. It’s certainly long overdue.
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LOL! You forgot chemtrails.
 
superrific said:
How many people did the Nazis shuttle to concentration and/or death camps over the four years after the Final Solution? The Khmer Rouge moved about a million people out of the cities in a matter of months.

The point is that deportation capacity depends in large measure on a) willingness to follow rules; and b) commitment of resources. If Trump tries hard enough, 400,000 deportations will be easy.
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It won’t happen but I guarantee you he will inquire about using cattle cars.
 
Looking like Allen Weisselberg going to have to get back in the game! Trump is milking his nominees like Blagojevich! He's got gold baby!
 
My gosh, people on this thread are saying RFK jr could be a good pick? What? There’s no way to bridge this divide.

That’s what has become obvious to me. Pubs don’t want and will never accept a bridge. The shit they spew about what Dems need to do to reach them is just that, shit.

Dems should do like Pubs and just go scorched earth.
 
LeoBloom said:
My gosh, people on this thread are saying RFK jr could be a good pick? What? There’s no way to bridge this divide.

That’s what has become obvious to me. Pubs don’t want and will never accept a bridge. The shit they spew about what Dems need to do to reach them is just that, shit.

Dems should do like Pubs and just go scorched earth.
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Keep in mind, these are "moderate" Pubs too.
 


Yeah, this is definitely the guy we want in charge of public health! Seems like a totally normal, levelheaded, even keeled kind of guy capable of making reasonable and rational decisions as it pertains to the health of 300+ million people.
 
My candidate has hit a pot hole. which is worse

Gaetz as AG
Gabbard as DNI
Kennedy as HHS

Has to be gaetz, then kennedy, then gabbard. Hegseth looks like a homerun comparatively.
 
HeelYeah2012 said:
This isn’t a Democrat/Republican thing. RFK is no Republican. He’s a Democrat-turned-Independent.
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You’re right—it’s not a matter of party. It’s a matter of fitness for the position.

If all you’re concerned about is food safety and nutrition guidelines, I can see you supporting him for head of FDA (although I’d vehemently oppose even that, because he clearly has no clue what he’s talking about).

But he’s being put up as head of HHS, which oversees the FDA in addition to things like Medicare, Medicaid, the VA, the NIH, and a whole bunch of other health-focused governmental agencies.

He’s a fucking idiot with no business at the helm of such an important institution, and you’re a fucking idiot for not understanding the scope of what you’re advocating for.
 


“It’s simply that Matt Gaetz has a very long, steep hill to get across the finish line,” said Sen. Kevin Cramer (R., N.D.). “And it will require the spending of a lot of capital, and you just have to ask: if you could get him across the finish line, was it worth the cost?”
 
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