Trump / Musk (other than DOGE)

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Is this an opportunity for Democrats to negotiate with Trump to get commitments on things they prioritize?
 
Trump is a nihilist and a malignant narcissist. In his "last" term he's going to burn it to the ground if he can with trolls and disruptors. His firehose of Bullsh*t is Everything, Everywhere, All at Once overwhelming most humans and counting on GQP cowardice, including at the Senate level.
 
TitanNC said:
Getting his cabinet confirmed. Something to protect abortion access at least to the states that still have it, something to protect and strengthen the ACA, pathway to citizenship, etc.
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You can't possibly be serious in thinking that a deal should be cut for confirming criminals with a criminal. Who is going to honor the deal?

Furthermore, there is no way any Republican does anything other than fall in line.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
Iā€™m sorry, and please believe me when I say Iā€™m not trying to come off as a dick and say ā€œ they deserve it,ā€ but women had a chance to stand up in this election and end Trumpism forever.

They failed to meet the moment.

Harris won the female vote age 18-44 by 11 points, 55-44. She won the female vote for the 45+ age group by 3 points, 51-48. Three fucking point difference between a rapist who is responsible for taking away their reproductive rights vs a woman for president.

And I obviously understand that those are still better numbers than what Kamala got from the men, but we needed the women of this country to save us from our own stupidity, and not enough of them stepped up to do it.

Elections have consequences.
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My instinct is to point out that women, Latinos, and Muslims failed to protect themselves and to have some schadenfreude over what is coming.

But on reflection, my cohort of white men is by far the worst. It seems racist, sexist, etc. to blame others when my group shares the majority of blame.

Instead, I am going to limit my schadenfreude to Trump voters themselves and just resign myself that as a country we will cumulatively get what we asked for. The rest are simply innocent victims no matter what demographic they belong to.

Just speaking for myself in how I am trying to steer my thought process away from where it has been the last couple of weeks.
 
wmheel1287 said:
You can't possibly be serious in thinking that a deal should be cut for confirming criminals with a criminal. Who is going to honor the deal?

Furthermore, there is no way any Republican does anything other than fall in line.
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Musk is prepared to subsidize primary challenges against any GQP'er who does not toe the line. Trump put the Pluto in Plutocracy.
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
My instinct is to point out that women, Latinos, and Muslims failed to protect themselves and to have some schadenfreude over what is coming.

But on reflection, my cohort of white men is by far the worst. It seems racist, sexist, etc. to blame others when my group shares the majority of blame.

Instead, I am going to limit my schadenfreude to Trump voters themselves and just resign myself that as a country we will cumulatively get what we asked for. The rest are simply innocent victims no matter what demographic they belong to.

Just speaking for myself in how I am trying to steer my thought process away from where it has been the last couple of weeks.
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The undervote was young people and suburban women. Jen O'Malley's 20th Century expensive ground game of door knocking and bell ringing is so 20th Century. Harris and Walz had the right instincts at first. Mega calls, podcasts, YT, IG, TikTok, WhatsApp are the influencing media platforms. This is The Way.

O'Malley was Biden's campaign manager - it was part of the deal to nominate Kamala. Huge mistake. I would have preferred James Carville, the Ragin' Cajun as campaign manager. Winning is all that matters...especially against Trump..
 
Duke Mu said:
Jen O'Malley's 20th Century expensive ground game of door knocking and bell ringing is so 20th Century. Harris and Walz had the right instincts at first. Mega calls, podcasts, YT, IG, TikTok, WhatsApp are the influencing media platforms. This is The Way.
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These are not competing ideas. They are complements.
 
WaynetheDrain said:
Iā€™m sorry, and please believe me when I say Iā€™m not trying to come off as a dick and say ā€œ they deserve it,ā€ but women had a chance to stand up in this election and end Trumpism forever.

They failed to meet the moment.

Harris won the female vote age 18-44 by 11 points, 55-44. She won the female vote for the 45+ age group by 3 points, 51-48. Three fucking point difference between a rapist who is responsible for taking away their reproductive rights vs a woman for president.

And I obviously understand that those are still better numbers than what Kamala got from the men, but we needed the women of this country to save us from our own stupidity, and not enough of them stepped up to do it.

Elections have consequences.
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I understand. They fucked around and unfortunately we all get to find out.
 
wmheel1287 said:
Lol at the idea of banning high fructose corn syrup. 90% of the daily diet of tons of Trump voters contains it and the use of it subsidizes the voters of nearly half of the Republican US Senators.
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I wonder what Trump's base is going to do when all that junk food they love to eat either starts disappearing from the grocery store shelves, or the taste of it changes because of different ingredients? I know everyone sees them as being so brainwashed that they'll fall in line for anything, but I don't see most of his base taking their junk food changing or going away very well at all. Of course all Trump will do is just blame it all on RFK, Jr. and fire his ass on national television to stay in his base's good graces. You can already imagine their gratitude to Dear Leader when their Doritos and candy and soft drinks all return to normal afterwards.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
I wonder what Trump's base is going to do when all that junk food they love to eat either starts disappearing from the grocery store shelves, or the taste of it changes because of different ingredients? I know everyone sees them as being so brainwashed that they'll fall in line for anything, but I don't see most of his base taking their junk food changing or going away very well at all. Of course all Trump will do is just blame it all on RFK, Jr. and fire his ass on national television to stay in his base's good graces. You can already imagine their gratitude to Dear Leader when their Doritos and candy and soft drinks all return to normal afterwards.
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And when hamburger costs $10 a pound because a 1/4 of the meat processing industry will have been deported or detained.
 
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